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'I could fix it over a weekend' is pretty much the motto of this page.

by Nowado 5y ago

Grimburger 5y ago
These two smug all-knowing above comments aside, how do you actually get charged money for dialling numbers that don't exist?
- Operyl 5y ago
  Corrupt carriers in other countries splitting the money, etc.
  - Grimburger 5y ago
    So stop dialling out to these few places? Otherwise it's a cost of doing business if you insist on keeping at it knowing full well what happens.
    - Operyl 5y ago
      This is what most people do, at my employment we restricted it to US/Canada with a reach out for other countries.
- noAnswer 5y ago
  They do usually exist. They answer immediately and than play the "it is ringing"-sound forever. (Some SIP providers allow you to disallow expensive numbers to be called and/or state the minute costs before the call starts (giving you time to hang up.))
  - aaaaaaaaata 5y ago
    Countries are demanding access to private citizen encrypted messages, but can't legislate away the basic 1980s phone scam. Wonder why their priorities are so skewed.
  - Grimburger 5y ago
    > They answer immediately and than play the "it is ringing"-sound forever. Except that clearly is a number which exists? One that answers, GP isn't fighting 1980's phreakers with a bluebox, they are using Twilio, Signalwire, etc to make automated verification calls/sms for a very large company as far as I understood it. The call being answered is baked entirely into your programmatic logic. Unless I'm missing some niche telco semantics or lingo here? Or they are rolling their own? To embrace the "don't question it, you don't understand" narrative, I'm actually quite stunned someone would let this go on for such a long time, if this is corruption, crime or some other sort of telecom fraud aided and abetted by foreign governments/companies why not just turn off the tap and ban the country code if it was such a cost sink? Why not use some of the many alternative (and significantly more secure) verification methods for your customers?
- deleted 5y ago
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gavinhenry 5y ago
The project page?
- Nowado 5y ago
  The HN page.
  - gavinhenry 5y ago
    :-D

'I could fix it over a weekend' is pretty much the motto of this page.

by Nowado 5y ago

'I could fix it over a weekend' is pretty much the motto of this page.

These two smug all-knowing above comments aside, how do you actually get charged money for dialling numbers that don't exist?

Operyl 5y ago
Corrupt carriers in other countries splitting the money, etc.
- Grimburger 5y ago
  So stop dialling out to these few places? Otherwise it's a cost of doing business if you insist on keeping at it knowing full well what happens.
  - Operyl 5y ago
    This is what most people do, at my employment we restricted it to US/Canada with a reach out for other countries.
noAnswer 5y ago
They do usually exist. They answer immediately and than play the "it is ringing"-sound forever. (Some SIP providers allow you to disallow expensive numbers to be called and/or state the minute costs before the call starts (giving you time to hang up.))
- aaaaaaaaata 5y ago
  Countries are demanding access to private citizen encrypted messages, but can't legislate away the basic 1980s phone scam. Wonder why their priorities are so skewed.
- Grimburger 5y ago
  > They answer immediately and than play the "it is ringing"-sound forever. Except that clearly is a number which exists? One that answers, GP isn't fighting 1980's phreakers with a bluebox, they are using Twilio, Signalwire, etc to make automated verification calls/sms for a very large company as far as I understood it. The call being answered is baked entirely into your programmatic logic. Unless I'm missing some niche telco semantics or lingo here? Or they are rolling their own? To embrace the "don't question it, you don't understand" narrative, I'm actually quite stunned someone would let this go on for such a long time, if this is corruption, crime or some other sort of telecom fraud aided and abetted by foreign governments/companies why not just turn off the tap and ban the country code if it was such a cost sink? Why not use some of the many alternative (and significantly more secure) verification methods for your customers?
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gavinhenry 5y ago

The project page?

Nowado 5y ago
The HN page.
- gavinhenry 5y ago
  :-D