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Shall the government have a monopoly on spreading fake news ? During this pandemic all governments were caught red handed. Shall we remove videos of speeches f

Shall the government have a monopoly on spreading fake news ? During this pandemic all governments were caught red handed. Shall we remove videos of speeches from our gouvernements spreading fake news ?

sofixa 5y ago
All governments spread misinformation on purpose? I suppose it's too much to ask for proof on that? Maybe you mean the initial mask conundrum? That was evolving guidance based on realities ( not enough masks) and current understanding of a changing situation. It was pretty much everyone, led by the WHO, though, but it was only kind of wrong ( I don't know about the whole world, but in France the official line was that "masks don't help you not get infected by much, there aren't enough of them and most people wouldn't know how to use them properly, so there's no need for everyone to wear a mask", which evolved to "masks stop you spreading, so everyone wear a mask").
- rastignack 5y ago
  We were also told vaccines prevented infection, after Israeli papers clearly established the opposite. We were told that green passes were conspiracy theory. We were told that booster shots would never be necessary. Natural immunity was dismissed. Those are four fake news. Shall I continue ?
  - sofixa 5y ago
    So, all governments officially said all of those while knowing them to be untrue? That's a bold claim ( i live in France and don't recall anything of the like on any of them). Care to share some sources?
    - rastignack 5y ago
      The French government did. Booster shots not necessary for green pass: https://youtu.be/OU3_bjF_5vw https://youtu.be/OU3_bjF_5vw The vaccine prevents infection: https://www.leprogres.fr/amp/sante/2021/07/30/on-peut-etre-vaccine-et-transmettre-le-covid-malgre-ce-que-dit-blanquer https://www.leprogres.fr/amp/sante/2021/07/30/on-peut-etre-v... No green pass for restaurants: https://www.femmeactuelle.fr/actu/news-actu/covid-19-quand-olivier-veran-sopposait-a-lextension-du-pass-sanitaire-dans-les-restaurants-2117053?amp https://www.femmeactuelle.fr/actu/news-actu/covid-19-quand-o... I can also add the lie about 90% of patients in ICU being non-vaxed. We were later told that it was a misinterpretation of the available data. Etc etc. It became kind of a meme: when Olivier Veran says something will never be done, it ends up done quite soon. I was about to get this vaccine. But those blatant lies deterred me from doing so.
      - sofixa 5y ago
        It's not lying to change one's opinion, or to be mistaken. Lying needs intent. Véran changing his opinion or being overruled by Macron doesn't mean any one of them is lying on purpose for some nebulous purpose.

sofixa 5y ago

All governments spread misinformation on purpose? I suppose it's too much to ask for proof on that? Maybe you mean the initial mask conundrum? That was evolving guidance based on realities ( not enough masks) and current understanding of a changing situation. It was pretty much everyone, led by the WHO, though, but it was only kind of wrong ( I don't know about the whole world, but in France the official line was that "masks don't help you not get infected by much, there aren't enough of them and most people wouldn't know how to use them properly, so there's no need for everyone to wear a mask", which evolved to "masks stop you spreading, so everyone wear a mask").

rastignack 5y ago
We were also told vaccines prevented infection, after Israeli papers clearly established the opposite. We were told that green passes were conspiracy theory. We were told that booster shots would never be necessary. Natural immunity was dismissed. Those are four fake news. Shall I continue ?
- sofixa 5y ago
  So, all governments officially said all of those while knowing them to be untrue? That's a bold claim ( i live in France and don't recall anything of the like on any of them). Care to share some sources?
  - rastignack 5y ago
    The French government did. Booster shots not necessary for green pass: https://youtu.be/OU3_bjF_5vw https://youtu.be/OU3_bjF_5vw The vaccine prevents infection: https://www.leprogres.fr/amp/sante/2021/07/30/on-peut-etre-vaccine-et-transmettre-le-covid-malgre-ce-que-dit-blanquer https://www.leprogres.fr/amp/sante/2021/07/30/on-peut-etre-v... No green pass for restaurants: https://www.femmeactuelle.fr/actu/news-actu/covid-19-quand-olivier-veran-sopposait-a-lextension-du-pass-sanitaire-dans-les-restaurants-2117053?amp https://www.femmeactuelle.fr/actu/news-actu/covid-19-quand-o... I can also add the lie about 90% of patients in ICU being non-vaxed. We were later told that it was a misinterpretation of the available data. Etc etc. It became kind of a meme: when Olivier Veran says something will never be done, it ends up done quite soon. I was about to get this vaccine. But those blatant lies deterred me from doing so.
    - sofixa 5y ago
      It's not lying to change one's opinion, or to be mistaken. Lying needs intent. Véran changing his opinion or being overruled by Macron doesn't mean any one of them is lying on purpose for some nebulous purpose.