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Vitamin D deficiency is associated with increased Covid-19 severity

10 points by lauriswtf 5y ago

berenza 5y ago
see also: https://vitamindforall.org/letter.html https://vitamindforall.org/letter.html
Day1 5y ago
Could you infer from this that lockdowns increased Covid-19 severity by reducing exposure to sunlight for the average person?
- ls15 5y ago
  Good question. At least we already know that the lockdowns did not really save lifes: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/jan/31/lockdowns-had-little-or-no-impact-covid-19-deaths-/ https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/jan/31/lockdowns-h... I wonder also how much damage the "fact checking" of the media has caused. I have seen several "fact checks" that discouraged supplementation of vitamin D with questionable reasoning.
  - mpweiher 5y ago
    Please stop spreading misinformation. The so-called "study" is a working paper by economists, so not peer reviewed or anything. Passing this off as settled knowledge ("we already know") is beyond parody. https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2022/02/06/did-so-called-johns-hopkins-study-really-show-lockdowns-were-ineffective-against-covid-19/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2022/02/06/did-so-call...
    - ls15 5y ago
      Forbes... https://www.niemanlab.org/2022/02/an-incomplete-history-of-forbes-com-as-a-platform-for-scams-grift-and-bad-journalism/ https://www.niemanlab.org/2022/02/an-incomplete-history-of-f...
    - ls15 5y ago
      https://www.tagesschau.de/multimedia/audio/audio-126415.html https://www.tagesschau.de/multimedia/audio/audio-126415.html Schwurbler
      - mpweiher 5y ago
        Repeating false information does not make it true.
        ls15 5y ago
        Are you writing an open letter to the tagesschau now?
        deleted 5y ago
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        mpweiher 5y ago
        1. The tagesschau did not post on HN. 2. The tagesschau did not claim this so-called "study" was settled knowledge. It's not. Not even close.
        ls15 5y ago
        German title: Johns Hopkins Studie: Lockdown hat kaum Leben gerettet, wohl aber Masken In English: John's Hopkins study: Lockdown hardly saved lifes, but masks did Tagesschau is both, the oldest and the most watched news program on German television.
        ls15 5y ago
        Actually here is where I got it originally from: https://www.tagesschau.de/newsticker/liveblog-coronavirus-dienstag-275.html#Studie https://www.tagesschau.de/newsticker/liveblog-coronavirus-di... Google Translation: # New study: Hardly any lives saved with lockdowns The total lockdown during the first corona wave saved almost no lives in Europe and the USA, according to the results of a meta-study by researchers at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore, which became the most important data source during the pandemic. However, masks for employees in companies or shops and the closing of bars and restaurants had a clear effect on the number of deaths from Covid-19. The researchers examined more than 18,000 global studies on the consequences of the pandemic and only filtered out those that deal with excess mortality from Covid-19. A total of 0.3 percent fewer deaths is the balance for times of total lockdowns with exit restrictions. Masks for employees, on the other hand, have reduced the number of deaths by almost 24 percent, and closed bars by another 15 percent. The order that only a few people are allowed to meet counts at three percent, as ARD correspondent Arthur Landwehr in Washington also reports from the study. Closed schools, on the other hand, had almost no effect, namely 0.1 percent, and the researchers were unable to measure any effect at all with closed borders.
ls15 5y ago
The signs have been on the wall all the time, but there never have been any large credible studies or trials to prove this, while everyone (and all the money) was focussed on the vaccines and only the vaccines. Encouraging testing and supplementation of vitamin D in an early phase on top of getting vaccinated could have potentially saved many lifes. Especially for those who cannot be vaccinated. Instead every time that someone suggested vitamin D for Covid, the media did their best to discredit that as potential misinformation, because not engough data and enough vitamin through healthy diet and outside activity. So instead of encouraging people to optimize their vitamin D, they even discouraged vitamin D, even when it has been known for years that there is an epidemic of vitamin D deficiency. Similarly there is an epidemic of magnesium deficiency, but not as severe as the low vitamin D epidemic.

10 points by lauriswtf 5y ago

see also: https://vitamindforall.org/letter.html https://vitamindforall.org/letter.html

Day1 5y ago

Could you infer from this that lockdowns increased Covid-19 severity by reducing exposure to sunlight for the average person?

ls15 5y ago
Good question. At least we already know that the lockdowns did not really save lifes: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/jan/31/lockdowns-had-little-or-no-impact-covid-19-deaths-/ https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/jan/31/lockdowns-h... I wonder also how much damage the "fact checking" of the media has caused. I have seen several "fact checks" that discouraged supplementation of vitamin D with questionable reasoning.
- mpweiher 5y ago
  Please stop spreading misinformation. The so-called "study" is a working paper by economists, so not peer reviewed or anything. Passing this off as settled knowledge ("we already know") is beyond parody. https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2022/02/06/did-so-called-johns-hopkins-study-really-show-lockdowns-were-ineffective-against-covid-19/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2022/02/06/did-so-call...
  - ls15 5y ago
    Forbes... https://www.niemanlab.org/2022/02/an-incomplete-history-of-forbes-com-as-a-platform-for-scams-grift-and-bad-journalism/ https://www.niemanlab.org/2022/02/an-incomplete-history-of-f...
  - ls15 5y ago
    https://www.tagesschau.de/multimedia/audio/audio-126415.html https://www.tagesschau.de/multimedia/audio/audio-126415.html Schwurbler
    - mpweiher 5y ago
      Repeating false information does not make it true.
      - ls15 5y ago
        Are you writing an open letter to the tagesschau now?
        deleted 5y ago
        [deleted]
        mpweiher 5y ago
        1. The tagesschau did not post on HN. 2. The tagesschau did not claim this so-called "study" was settled knowledge. It's not. Not even close.
        ls15 5y ago
        German title: Johns Hopkins Studie: Lockdown hat kaum Leben gerettet, wohl aber Masken In English: John's Hopkins study: Lockdown hardly saved lifes, but masks did Tagesschau is both, the oldest and the most watched news program on German television.
        ls15 5y ago
        Actually here is where I got it originally from: https://www.tagesschau.de/newsticker/liveblog-coronavirus-dienstag-275.html#Studie https://www.tagesschau.de/newsticker/liveblog-coronavirus-di... Google Translation: # New study: Hardly any lives saved with lockdowns The total lockdown during the first corona wave saved almost no lives in Europe and the USA, according to the results of a meta-study by researchers at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore, which became the most important data source during the pandemic. However, masks for employees in companies or shops and the closing of bars and restaurants had a clear effect on the number of deaths from Covid-19. The researchers examined more than 18,000 global studies on the consequences of the pandemic and only filtered out those that deal with excess mortality from Covid-19. A total of 0.3 percent fewer deaths is the balance for times of total lockdowns with exit restrictions. Masks for employees, on the other hand, have reduced the number of deaths by almost 24 percent, and closed bars by another 15 percent. The order that only a few people are allowed to meet counts at three percent, as ARD correspondent Arthur Landwehr in Washington also reports from the study. Closed schools, on the other hand, had almost no effect, namely 0.1 percent, and the researchers were unable to measure any effect at all with closed borders.

ls15 5y ago

The signs have been on the wall all the time, but there never have been any large credible studies or trials to prove this, while everyone (and all the money) was focussed on the vaccines and only the vaccines. Encouraging testing and supplementation of vitamin D in an early phase on top of getting vaccinated could have potentially saved many lifes. Especially for those who cannot be vaccinated. Instead every time that someone suggested vitamin D for Covid, the media did their best to discredit that as potential misinformation, because not engough data and enough vitamin through healthy diet and outside activity. So instead of encouraging people to optimize their vitamin D, they even discouraged vitamin D, even when it has been known for years that there is an epidemic of vitamin D deficiency. Similarly there is an epidemic of magnesium deficiency, but not as severe as the low vitamin D epidemic.