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> Maybe? Alex Jones still hasn't accepted reality regarding the Sandy Hook massacre, even after losing a trial. Éric Zemmour still peddles blatantly racist and

by mikevm 5y ago

> Maybe? Alex Jones still hasn't accepted reality regarding the Sandy Hook massacre, even after losing a trial. Éric Zemmour still peddles blatantly racist and false information after being fined multiple times for it. Is there a way to even stop that kind of person? Anyone listening to them ( and Trump, and Nigel Farage, and Boris Johnson) obviously isn't interested in facts, because everything out of their mouths is easily debunkable with a few minutes online Do you have any examples of left-wingers producing misinformation? You know, people on CNN or MSNBC? Or are you going to produce only right-wing examples because you live in an absolute bubble and have no ability to see that there is daily misinformation on all corporate-owned networks: Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, etc... and even in a very egregious way. It is clear to me that you only read Democratic-party aligned news sources and have a terribly biased and skewed worldview where apparently only "tHe RiGhT-WiNgErS aRe RaCiSt hurr durr". Your guy Joe Biden has produced more racist outcomes with his Crime Bill than Donald Trump has ever done in his tweets.

sofixa 5y ago
Nice attempt at whataboutism, but I'm talking about specific examples of egregious misinformation that is kind of dangerous. If you have anything of substance to add besides handwaving "the other side in my broken two party country is also bad and lies about inconsequential stuff while the one i like literally spreads medical misinformation resulting in people dying", do so. For the record, both your parties are rightwing, one is just far-right while the other is centre-right. Both are full of idiots, but one is obviously worse, which is sad for the people opposed to the policies of the less bad one ( because they have no other options).
- mikevm 5y ago
  It's not whataboutism. I've listed Fox News as one of the spreaders of misinformation.... but nice try there. Here's an example of Rachel Maddow spreading false info on the vaccine: https://youtu.be/jDtUWXOmLLg?t=373 https://youtu.be/jDtUWXOmLLg?t=373 You have also spewed well known lie by claiming that Ivermectin is a horse medicine, while it is first and foremost human medicine which was only later on appropriated for veterinary purposes. There are studies on Ivermectin's effectiveness for COVID, some of which are ongoing, and calling it a "horse dewormer" is a clear smear tactic -- definitely not by an innocent actor. I personally went back-and-forth on whether Ivermectin was actually effective for early treatment on COVID. But whatever the ultimate answer is, censoring discussion about it, or lying by calling it animal medicine is clearly a dishonest tactic. I do not care about Republican or Democart parties. I care about the truth. And now that we have access to both primary sources, studies and multiple sources of informations, no one has to take the establishment narrative at face value -- which is something done in corporate news channels such as CNN and MSNBC. At this point it's better to watch Tucker Carlson on Fox, because at least there you'll get an anti-establishment view, which any decent person should always strive for. As I said before, I am triple-vaxxed. I am not against vaccines, but I am against the lies, power grabs and censorship that have plagued us since the beginning of this pandemic. The push for the vaccines has forced mainstream media and tech companies to censor any discussion on potential early treatments that were being researched (hydroxychrloroquine [which now we know is not effective], ivermectin, monocolonal antibodies, etc...), some of which were actually proven to be very effective. This is absolutely insane. The vaccine itself is not 100% effective, so why silence this information? It is funny how when the vaccine was developed under Trump, both Joe Biden and Kamala Harris were "promoting vaccine hesitancy" a crime which now gets you deplatformed and declared a social pariah: https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/campaign-press-release-fact-kamala-harriss-anti-vaccine-rhetoric-anti-science-and https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/campaign-press-rel... Finally, there are credentialed people who have different opinions on how to handle this pandemic, for example: https://gbdeclaration.org/ https://gbdeclaration.org/ which Fauci and Collins tried to shut down [see their leaked emails https://www.wsj.com/articles/fauci-collins-emails-great-barrington-declaration-covid-pandemic-lockdown-11640129116 https://www.wsj.com/articles/fauci-collins-emails-great-barr...] P.S. This is a nice interview with these doctors https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5Fxxrudk70 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5Fxxrudk70 I don't even want to get started about the inaccurate COVID mortality reporting, and how actually extremely low the deaths from COVID-only are, especially for people younger than 50 - as opposed of people dying "with COVID" and a ton of other comorbidities.

by mikevm 5y ago

sofixa 5y ago

Nice attempt at whataboutism, but I'm talking about specific examples of egregious misinformation that is kind of dangerous. If you have anything of substance to add besides handwaving "the other side in my broken two party country is also bad and lies about inconsequential stuff while the one i like literally spreads medical misinformation resulting in people dying", do so. For the record, both your parties are rightwing, one is just far-right while the other is centre-right. Both are full of idiots, but one is obviously worse, which is sad for the people opposed to the policies of the less bad one ( because they have no other options).

mikevm 5y ago
It's not whataboutism. I've listed Fox News as one of the spreaders of misinformation.... but nice try there. Here's an example of Rachel Maddow spreading false info on the vaccine: https://youtu.be/jDtUWXOmLLg?t=373 https://youtu.be/jDtUWXOmLLg?t=373 You have also spewed well known lie by claiming that Ivermectin is a horse medicine, while it is first and foremost human medicine which was only later on appropriated for veterinary purposes. There are studies on Ivermectin's effectiveness for COVID, some of which are ongoing, and calling it a "horse dewormer" is a clear smear tactic -- definitely not by an innocent actor. I personally went back-and-forth on whether Ivermectin was actually effective for early treatment on COVID. But whatever the ultimate answer is, censoring discussion about it, or lying by calling it animal medicine is clearly a dishonest tactic. I do not care about Republican or Democart parties. I care about the truth. And now that we have access to both primary sources, studies and multiple sources of informations, no one has to take the establishment narrative at face value -- which is something done in corporate news channels such as CNN and MSNBC. At this point it's better to watch Tucker Carlson on Fox, because at least there you'll get an anti-establishment view, which any decent person should always strive for. As I said before, I am triple-vaxxed. I am not against vaccines, but I am against the lies, power grabs and censorship that have plagued us since the beginning of this pandemic. The push for the vaccines has forced mainstream media and tech companies to censor any discussion on potential early treatments that were being researched (hydroxychrloroquine [which now we know is not effective], ivermectin, monocolonal antibodies, etc...), some of which were actually proven to be very effective. This is absolutely insane. The vaccine itself is not 100% effective, so why silence this information? It is funny how when the vaccine was developed under Trump, both Joe Biden and Kamala Harris were "promoting vaccine hesitancy" a crime which now gets you deplatformed and declared a social pariah: https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/campaign-press-release-fact-kamala-harriss-anti-vaccine-rhetoric-anti-science-and https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/campaign-press-rel... Finally, there are credentialed people who have different opinions on how to handle this pandemic, for example: https://gbdeclaration.org/ https://gbdeclaration.org/ which Fauci and Collins tried to shut down [see their leaked emails https://www.wsj.com/articles/fauci-collins-emails-great-barrington-declaration-covid-pandemic-lockdown-11640129116 https://www.wsj.com/articles/fauci-collins-emails-great-barr...] P.S. This is a nice interview with these doctors https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5Fxxrudk70 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5Fxxrudk70 I don't even want to get started about the inaccurate COVID mortality reporting, and how actually extremely low the deaths from COVID-only are, especially for people younger than 50 - as opposed of people dying "with COVID" and a ton of other comorbidities.