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I think that long time might not be higher than an hour or two given how much heat the LEDs need to dissipate. A lot of non-technical users might get used to t

by alin23 5y ago

I think that long time might not be higher than an hour or two given how much heat the LEDs need to dissipate. A lot of non-technical users might get used to that brightness and then start complaining about their display dimming by itself randomly.

jeroenhd 5y ago
Apple claims on its website to support 1,000 nits sustained brightness and 1,600 nits peak brightness. If in reality they can only sustain 500 nits brightness, that's probably a disappointment to people who spent extra on the newer, fancier display in the hopes of working on the laptop outside. If they can't sustain their sustained brightness, that might even be false advertising.
- dilap 5y ago
  Yeah, I'm people; got a 14" MBP expecting to be able to ramp up the brightness, and was surprised to find it caps out at exactly the same brightness as my previous 16" Intel. I think their marketing claims here are extremely deceptive. Apple should be above engaging in such shenanigans! (Nevertheless, still super happy w/ the computer as a whole; it's an amazing machine.)
can16358p 5y ago
Then why is Apple advertising it as 1000nits sustained? If it can sustain 1000 nits for HDR content, it can for SDR too. The display isn't going to say "hey it's SDR let me piss them off" and suddenly start dissipating more heat at 1000 nits at SDR compared to HDR after all.
- alin23 5y ago
  Well most likely because HDR content doesn’t mean full bright white for extended periods of time. Even if you watch 8 hours of HDR content, only some of the LEDs will get to peak brightness for small periods of time. That will allow the LEDs to cool down enough to sustain that brightness. The macOS UI and webpages on the other hand are mostly bright white and that can cause trouble on extended periods of time.
  - can16358p 5y ago
    Makes sense, but still, the advertising is a bit misleading, and I honestly think that it's on purpose. As a dark mode user I'd love to see 1000 nits though, maybe something like iPhone thermal throttling the brightness when it gets too hot.
  - jeroenhd 5y ago
    That's perfectly reasonable, but Apple lists different brightness capabilities for "sustained" and "peak". I don't think anyone expects their excellent 1600 nits peak brightness to be constantly available, but the 1000 nits sustained brightness is supposed to be, well, sustained. Perhaps "sustained" is some kind of jargon from the laptop industry but I consider myself to be more educated than the average Joe when it comes to computers and I would've expected a 1000 nits screen based on their advertisements. I don't see what Apple has to gain by either lying or deceptively using jargon like this.

by alin23 5y ago

jeroenhd 5y ago

Apple claims on its website to support 1,000 nits sustained brightness and 1,600 nits peak brightness. If in reality they can only sustain 500 nits brightness, that's probably a disappointment to people who spent extra on the newer, fancier display in the hopes of working on the laptop outside. If they can't sustain their sustained brightness, that might even be false advertising.

dilap 5y ago
Yeah, I'm people; got a 14" MBP expecting to be able to ramp up the brightness, and was surprised to find it caps out at exactly the same brightness as my previous 16" Intel. I think their marketing claims here are extremely deceptive. Apple should be above engaging in such shenanigans! (Nevertheless, still super happy w/ the computer as a whole; it's an amazing machine.)

can16358p 5y ago

Then why is Apple advertising it as 1000nits sustained? If it can sustain 1000 nits for HDR content, it can for SDR too. The display isn't going to say "hey it's SDR let me piss them off" and suddenly start dissipating more heat at 1000 nits at SDR compared to HDR after all.

alin23 5y ago
Well most likely because HDR content doesn’t mean full bright white for extended periods of time. Even if you watch 8 hours of HDR content, only some of the LEDs will get to peak brightness for small periods of time. That will allow the LEDs to cool down enough to sustain that brightness. The macOS UI and webpages on the other hand are mostly bright white and that can cause trouble on extended periods of time.
- can16358p 5y ago
  Makes sense, but still, the advertising is a bit misleading, and I honestly think that it's on purpose. As a dark mode user I'd love to see 1000 nits though, maybe something like iPhone thermal throttling the brightness when it gets too hot.
- jeroenhd 5y ago
  That's perfectly reasonable, but Apple lists different brightness capabilities for "sustained" and "peak". I don't think anyone expects their excellent 1600 nits peak brightness to be constantly available, but the 1000 nits sustained brightness is supposed to be, well, sustained. Perhaps "sustained" is some kind of jargon from the laptop industry but I consider myself to be more educated than the average Joe when it comes to computers and I would've expected a 1000 nits screen based on their advertisements. I don't see what Apple has to gain by either lying or deceptively using jargon like this.