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> It's likely Rogan would have been banned from YouTube and Apple Podcasts had he not moved to Spotify. I'm not so sure. Just put the non controversial episode

> It's likely Rogan would have been banned from YouTube and Apple Podcasts had he not moved to Spotify. I'm not so sure. Just put the non controversial episodes on YouTube, then link and advertise the "problematic" episodes that are only available on your own platform. This is what the Lotus Eaters do: https://www.lotuseaters.com https://www.lotuseaters.com

thrown_22 5y ago
- leephillips 5y ago
  Do you have an example of someone who was banned in early 2020, or any time, for supporting masks?
  - nutshell89 5y ago
    In early 2020, NYC transit operators were barred from wearing masks and the MTA reasoned that there was not federal or state policy at the time recommending mask usage. At the time, the surgeon general cautioned the general public to stop buying masks because, "they had not been proven effective in preventing the spread of coronavirus." > https://gothamist.com/news/subway-train-operator-says-mta-wont-let-him-wear-respiratory-mask-because-public-perception https://gothamist.com/news/subway-train-operator-says-mta-wo...
    - leephillips 5y ago
      Interesting to know, but not examples of banning for advocating the use of masks.
- chillage 5y ago
  Sorry I agree with the overall sentiment that party line can shift with time unpredictably, but who had been banned in early 2020 for supporting masks? As I recall people socially self imposed masks in a matter of just a couple weeks early in the pandemic, in North America at least, and nobody would have been banned for it.
  - thrown_22 5y ago
    - malloryerik 5y ago
      I have a bit of a hard time just taking that on faith from a throwaway account's two-word sentence without reference to who, where, when, or how.
      - thrown_22 5y ago
        malloryerik 5y ago
        Is that your honest, good faith interpretation of what I wrote?
        thrown_22 5y ago
        What other one is there? The social media sites offload their moderation to volunteer tin pot dictators or third world sweat shops.
  - leppr 5y ago
    This issue needs thorough investigative work, to reconstruct an objective timeline. But as far as I remember it, mask wearing was seen first as being something for paranoid conspiracy theorists, then selfish people, then the narrative was reversed. Experts were invited on primetime TV to say masks are not recommended to the general public. I distinctly remember arguing with educated people at work, online, with relatives, that masks should be worn in enclosed public places, months deep into the pandemic. We would see old people, barely managing to walk, not wear masks while going grocery shopping, because government experts told them they didn't need to. All the while China was in total lockdown and victim counts exploding. I fear most people would prefer to forget because they played a part in it and it makes them feel dumb. We might get collective amnesia, ensuring this part of the story never reaches the history books. We shouldn't be ashamed though, we've all been victims of misinformation and cultish behavior at one point, the important thing is to draw lessons from it.
- habibur 5y ago
  It's worse under the authoritative government where I live. Multiple people including doctors were arrested by police and beaten up in custody for saying online of the dangers of covid in early 2020. And then then in late 2020 these same government organizations were beating people up again for saying online that it wasn't.

thrown_22 5y ago

leephillips 5y ago
Do you have an example of someone who was banned in early 2020, or any time, for supporting masks?
- nutshell89 5y ago
  In early 2020, NYC transit operators were barred from wearing masks and the MTA reasoned that there was not federal or state policy at the time recommending mask usage. At the time, the surgeon general cautioned the general public to stop buying masks because, "they had not been proven effective in preventing the spread of coronavirus." > https://gothamist.com/news/subway-train-operator-says-mta-wont-let-him-wear-respiratory-mask-because-public-perception https://gothamist.com/news/subway-train-operator-says-mta-wo...
  - leephillips 5y ago
    Interesting to know, but not examples of banning for advocating the use of masks.
chillage 5y ago
Sorry I agree with the overall sentiment that party line can shift with time unpredictably, but who had been banned in early 2020 for supporting masks? As I recall people socially self imposed masks in a matter of just a couple weeks early in the pandemic, in North America at least, and nobody would have been banned for it.
- thrown_22 5y ago
  - malloryerik 5y ago
    I have a bit of a hard time just taking that on faith from a throwaway account's two-word sentence without reference to who, where, when, or how.
    - thrown_22 5y ago
      - malloryerik 5y ago
        Is that your honest, good faith interpretation of what I wrote?
        thrown_22 5y ago
        What other one is there? The social media sites offload their moderation to volunteer tin pot dictators or third world sweat shops.
- leppr 5y ago
  This issue needs thorough investigative work, to reconstruct an objective timeline. But as far as I remember it, mask wearing was seen first as being something for paranoid conspiracy theorists, then selfish people, then the narrative was reversed. Experts were invited on primetime TV to say masks are not recommended to the general public. I distinctly remember arguing with educated people at work, online, with relatives, that masks should be worn in enclosed public places, months deep into the pandemic. We would see old people, barely managing to walk, not wear masks while going grocery shopping, because government experts told them they didn't need to. All the while China was in total lockdown and victim counts exploding. I fear most people would prefer to forget because they played a part in it and it makes them feel dumb. We might get collective amnesia, ensuring this part of the story never reaches the history books. We shouldn't be ashamed though, we've all been victims of misinformation and cultish behavior at one point, the important thing is to draw lessons from it.
habibur 5y ago
It's worse under the authoritative government where I live. Multiple people including doctors were arrested by police and beaten up in custody for saying online of the dangers of covid in early 2020. And then then in late 2020 these same government organizations were beating people up again for saying online that it wasn't.