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You don't have to guess or use your imagination. You can find videos of even more unruly people getting forcibly removed from premises without such severe injur
by dataflow 5y ago
You don't have to guess or use your imagination. You can find videos of even more unruly people getting forcibly removed from premises without such severe injuries. Here's one of a passenger getting forcibly removed (and I'm not even claiming it was all that great): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2CR_zuzNwg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2CR_zuzNwg
I would also suggest considering that e.g. bus drivers face noncompliant passengers (non-paying, even!) far more frequently, and they have pretty good peaceful means of dealing with them.
- manigandham 5y agoSure, like I said sometimes it goes better, and sometimes it's worse. Clearly it was adjudicated that it was excessive in this United instance by people qualified and knowledgeable of all the factors but that doesn't override that fundamental point that when force is used then injuries are possible and probable.
- dataflow 5y ago> but that doesn't override that fundamental point that when force is used then injuries are possible and probable. Sure it does. Because force isn't binary, which circles us back directly to where I made this point above. Your logic only makes sense if you treat "force" as binary.
- manigandham 5y agoForce is binary as a resolution. I already answered your question about the degree of force in that I don't know, and that "people qualified and knowledgeable of all the factors" have already decided for this particular instance that it was excessive.