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> The host is a broken record increasingly with an agenda who flies an "I'm a moron" disclaimer This is the same trick Jon Stewart used on The Daily Show to gr

> The host is a broken record increasingly with an agenda who flies an "I'm a moron" disclaimer This is the same trick Jon Stewart used on The Daily Show to great effect. “I’m just a comedian” indeed. People just happened to like his takes.

cardosof 5y ago
It works because it's true. The joke's on the audience that takes seriously what someone with a comedian background says after "I'm a comedian, but..."
brunellus 5y ago
Totally. The irony of this is lost on so many.
pengaru 5y ago
Jon Stewart also is arguably the spiritual originator of assaulting the "Fake News" media, though I don't think he ever used those specific words.
- farmerstan 5y ago
  Jon Stewart is responsible for an entire generation of millenials thinking that pointing out political hypocrisy was enough.
  - pengaru 5y ago
    Is that right? My peers were largely rabid fans of his daily show, but that's gen X. I thought millenials were a bit young for that.
tinco 5y ago
There's a big difference between "I'm a comedian, I'm just poking fun at the truth" and "I'm a moron, I can't reliably interpret truth from fiction".
- paulcole 5y ago
  Not sure why you care what I say, I’m just an HN commenter!
  - tinco 5y ago
    I trust you so much more than I would ever trust Bill O'Reilly.
Spivak 5y ago
I think I half agree with you. A lot of Jon's segments were just straight up mean -- well beyond playful mockery which made him hard to watch sometimes and he got away with it because of the comedian label. Where I disagree is that he was always open about his politics and knew that his show was "serious takes with light hearted delivery" and made it a point to not talk about topics from a position of ignorance. When you hear him talk off-camera it's clear that he really cares about getting it right and saying something intelligible through the jokes. When I listen to Joe it's different, I'm not saying he couldn't run with the bit of "I don't know nuthin' about nuthin'" and come from a place of empathy and curiosity which would be cool. But what it is in practice is "I'm a moron and you shouldn't listen to what I think I don't know what I'm talking about buttttt and then speaks authoritatively on some politically charged topic he's supposedly ignorant of."

cardosof 5y ago

It works because it's true. The joke's on the audience that takes seriously what someone with a comedian background says after "I'm a comedian, but..."

brunellus 5y ago

Totally. The irony of this is lost on so many.

pengaru 5y ago

Jon Stewart also is arguably the spiritual originator of assaulting the "Fake News" media, though I don't think he ever used those specific words.

farmerstan 5y ago
Jon Stewart is responsible for an entire generation of millenials thinking that pointing out political hypocrisy was enough.
- pengaru 5y ago
  Is that right? My peers were largely rabid fans of his daily show, but that's gen X. I thought millenials were a bit young for that.

tinco 5y ago

There's a big difference between "I'm a comedian, I'm just poking fun at the truth" and "I'm a moron, I can't reliably interpret truth from fiction".

paulcole 5y ago
Not sure why you care what I say, I’m just an HN commenter!
- tinco 5y ago
  I trust you so much more than I would ever trust Bill O'Reilly.

Spivak 5y ago

I think I half agree with you. A lot of Jon's segments were just straight up mean -- well beyond playful mockery which made him hard to watch sometimes and he got away with it because of the comedian label. Where I disagree is that he was always open about his politics and knew that his show was "serious takes with light hearted delivery" and made it a point to not talk about topics from a position of ignorance. When you hear him talk off-camera it's clear that he really cares about getting it right and saying something intelligible through the jokes. When I listen to Joe it's different, I'm not saying he couldn't run with the bit of "I don't know nuthin' about nuthin'" and come from a place of empathy and curiosity which would be cool. But what it is in practice is "I'm a moron and you shouldn't listen to what I think I don't know what I'm talking about buttttt and then speaks authoritatively on some politically charged topic he's supposedly ignorant of."