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I grew up around evangelical Christians. The negative reaction to Rogan *feels* exactly like the clucking and tutting about 'dangerous ideas' that I've heard f
by jcims 5y ago
I grew up around evangelical Christians. The negative reaction to Rogan *feels* exactly like the clucking and tutting about 'dangerous ideas' that I've heard from the more cellophane elements of that crew.
- steelstraw 5y agoJoe Rogan is the new Howard Stern.
- ifyoubuildit 5y agoYeah, it feels like theres a new kind of conservativism being born in the last couple years.
- yanderekko 5y agoIt's not conservative. It's puritanical, however. Political tribalism has filled the void left by the diminishment of religious tribalism.
- cardosof 5y agoYes, because religious activities were at or near the center of everyday life for many. It was the topic of discussion during meals. It defined people and their personalities. Now politics has taken that place, and I'm not sure we're better that way.
- tsol 5y agoAt least with religion we mostly know what is supposed to be right and wrong. It's exhausting when it changes every month and something innocent I said last month is taken as an awful slight next month
- ifyoubuildit 5y agoConservative like the people that the old hippies used to call squares. The people who wanted you to fall in line and get a hair cut, get a job, and stop listening to that evil music.
- inferiorhuman 5y ago
- jcims 5y agoLow-effort dunks are not a good look. That same 'horse deworming paste' is showing promise in fighting cancer as well: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7505114/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7505114/ https://mdanderson.elsevierpure.com/en/publications/ivermectin-as-an-inhibitor-of-cancer-stem-like-cells https://mdanderson.elsevierpure.com/en/publications/ivermect... https://www.embopress.org/doi/full/10.15252/emmm.201404084 https://www.embopress.org/doi/full/10.15252/emmm.201404084 https://jeccr.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13046-019-1251-7 https://jeccr.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13046-019-... https://www.nature.com/articles/s41523-021-00229-5 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41523-021-00229-5 https://journals.lww.com/oncology-times/fulltext/2021/05050/use_of_the_anti_parasitic_drug_ivermectin_to_treat.4.aspx https://journals.lww.com/oncology-times/fulltext/2021/05050/... https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1043661820315152 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S104366182... How does a deworming paste kill an entire organism without harming the host? Do you have a grasp of the mechanism of action? Why is it unlikely that it would have anti-viral effects? My intuition is you have absolutely no idea. Do some searching and dig in. If you spent a few days reading articles about how this works you might see a possibility of it having some benefit in this case. It's ok to read, you're not going to hurt anyone because nobody is going to ask you (or me) for your opinion on the matter, but you would at least have a basis for why you think the way you do.
- jcims 5y agoGood start! Keep reading! Ivermectin may or may not help people with covid, i have no idea. My point is that dismissing it outright based on tabloid characterizations is not helpful. It’s propaganda.
- TMWNN 5y agoI've heard "problematic" described as the woke religion's equivalent to "heresy".
- rasz 5y agoNew? D&D will turn your child into a Satanist. 40 years ago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanic_panic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanic_panic
- JPKab 5y agoI grew up same as you, and you took the words out of my mouth. People who grew up secular are completely unaware of how Southern Baptist in style all of this canceling and moralizing is. Like the church ladies, they turn moralizing into a competitive sport, and everyone loses.
- rustandstardust 5y agoSpot on, though I think it's not just an issue of 'dangerous ideas', it's more an issue of can the layperson think at all for themself. I.e. less 'free speech' and more dark-ageish 'only these are allowed to speak' problem.
- gunapologist99 5y agoThis comment seems grossly overgeneralized and patently offensive about a huge group of people. What does Joe Rogan have to do at all with evangelical Christians?
- hstan4 5y agoWelcome to HN, where some people find a way to fit their agenda into every discussion now, it seems.
- notreallyserio 5y agoI think you misread. The feeling described is about peoples reaction to Joe Rogan (like his tacit support for anti-vaccine ideology) and how evangelicals have the same reaction to things they don't like (like rights for women). As far as I can tell evangelicals and many other Christian denominations are some of the biggest cancellers to ever exist. The left cancels, too, of course. And only now that the left's actions are becoming broadly effective folks are finally talking about how cancellations affect society.
- jcims 5y agoOP(?) here, gunapologist99 makes a good point in that I painted with too broad a brush stroke. Most of the evangelicals I know are actually amazing people and are not like this at all. They are generous, kind, forgiving...but they are also humble and quiet and don't make a bunch of noise or stir up trouble. Unless you live with them, nobody really hears about this kind of Christian. Its just that there is a certain vein of folk that really focus on what everyone else should and should not be doing. Kenneth Copeland style. That's who I was referencing, but did a sloppy job of distinguishing them. Anyway.
- flippinburgers 5y agoThe thing that is so hard for me to wrap my head around is that it is the LEFT who is doing it this time. I never would have imagined my "team" being the one to do it. In fact, I have to wonder what it is that I "am" anymore.
- wincy 5y agoI had this crisis several years ago with the whole "Jordan Peterson controversy". I found myself listening to a man who told me how to get out of my depression when everyone around me thought he was an evil bad man, but they were all miserable people who definitely didn't help. So I stopped hanging out with them. My life got objectively better, too. I wouldn't consider myself a Jordan Peterson fanatic, but that was when I really realized I wasn't whatever the "left" wanted me to be.
- rymate1234 5y agoThe "left" is no more immune to controlling thought than the right -- just look at China or the USSR The danger is authoritarianism and centralisation, and in terms of centralisation big tech companies like Spotify have in spades. You could also feasibly argue they're authoritarian as no-one outside the company can influence policy outside of free market forces, but centralisation can make these companies somewhat immune to said forces, for instance Spotify being the exclusive distributor of Joe Rogan podcasts means those interested in his content have no choice but to continue using Spotify, even though some of his podcasts have been removed.
- anon7725 5y ago> In fact, I have to wonder what it is that I "am" anymore. I have gone through a similar transition since the summer of 2020.
- odonnellryan 5y agoWhy do you think Spotify removed the podcasts?