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One of the ironic things here is that it’s pitted Spotify’s brand as a music company against their brand as a podcast company. For people originally drawn to Sp
by mrobins 5y ago
One of the ironic things here is that it’s pitted Spotify’s brand as a music company against their brand as a podcast company. For people originally drawn to Spotify as a music service the departure of even a few icons all of a sudden makes Apple Music very attractive.
- voisin 5y agoI switched from Spotify to Apple Music fairly recently and I am still shocked on the daily how poorly built Apple Music is. In the several years I subscribed to Spotify I never had issues of content not loading or choppiness in the playback, but with Apple Music it is nearly every day. The only thing Apple Music has going for it over Spotify (in my opinion) is that the recommendations are easily 10x better for discovering new content.
- Gigachad 5y agoI only tried music streaming last year and started with Apple Music and was shocked at how outright broken the platform is. Like I’d press play and a different song on the page would play. Or it would start lagging out really bad until I reload the page. Shocked and how poor apple did here considering I haven’t had issues with any other product from them.
- mullingitover 5y ago> Shocked and how poor apple did here considering I haven’t had issues with any other product from them. You must not have tried Apple Home.
- beebmam 5y agoI actually find apple music discovery to be far worse for my tastes than Spotify. But nothing even comes close to the SoundCloud Weekly and SoundCloud Upload discovery playlists. I've found such incredible indie musicians through those playlists. I can't rave enough about them.
- bradly 5y ago> The only thing Apple Music has going for it over Spotify (in my opinion) is that the recommendations are easily 10x better for discovering new content. Thank you! I spent the last few years working on improving the quality of those recommendations!
- sho_hn 5y agoYour post surprised me: I can't think of any other Apple employees publically talking about their work, other than the early years of the WebKit team.
- bradly 5y agoI’m ex-Apple, so that may help, but I was once told it’s fine to talk about anything that is in a job posting. People are working on almost everything, so I don’t feel like I’m giving away anything shocking. Apple is a big place, though. My experience may not be the same as others.
- pssdbt 5y agoGreat work!
- archagon 5y agoCan you tell me more? Last I tried (a number of years ago), the recommendations were completely mainstream and uninteresting, whereas Discover Weekly routinely dredged up almost-unknown artists that quickly turned into favorites. Can Apple Music do something similar today? Does it use a similar approach to Spotify or is it curated somehow?
- DanHulton 5y agoI'm in the same boat, but one extra thing I found that Apple Music does better is sound quality. I'm not an audiophile by any means, but even I noticed immediately that music sounded _much_ better, like, very noticeably. But yeah, aside from that, it's kind of a miserable experience. Hard to believe it's _still_ so bad.
- philliphaydon 5y agoWow I moved from Spotify to Apple about… 6 months ago? My experience has been better than Spotify. Searching in the olddddd Spotify apple (pre electron days) worked so well. But then they broke it when moving to electron and never fixed it.
- jbergens 5y agoTry Tidal or Qobuz, they should work.
- strofcon 5y agoAnd weirdly (as tech tends to be), Spotify was terribad for me in terms of stability and playback continuity. :-D But yea, Apple Music is not great here either. Haven't had enough time with their suggestion engine, but Spotify's is indeed pretty awful.
- myko 5y agoYouTube music is by far the best about recommendations IME. Shame about the app and smart device integration, though - often telling a speaker to play music on the TV will just have audio and not video, for example.
- throwawayrev3 5y agoThere's also: Tidal https://tidal.com/ https://tidal.com/ Deezer https://www.deezer.com/ https://www.deezer.com/ Bandcamp https://bandcamp.com/ https://bandcamp.com/ Jango https://www.jango.com/ https://www.jango.com/ Radio Paradise https://radioparadise.com/ https://radioparadise.com/ There's also FOSS software for collaborative music with friends, musicians etc: Jamulus https://github.com/jamulussoftware/jamulus https://github.com/jamulussoftware/jamulus
- djkoolaide 5y agoI switched to Deezer recently and my favorite thing is that it actually has a usable, full-featured web version that's not full of bloat -- and, more importantly, allows lossless music playback in browser. The web UI works so well that I never even bothered to install the desktop app, unlike other services I've used in the past. They definitely deserve a shout-out.
- kodisha 5y agoBest feature of Deezer by FAR: That unlimited lenght "Flow" playlist. It's like personalized radio, but you can skip songs. I'm so sad that Spotify didn't implement such a feature yet.
- kzrdude 5y agoAnd Youtube Music https://music.youtube.com/ https://music.youtube.com/
- INTPenis 5y agoAs a long time Google Music user I don't understand why people never mention them. It's Youtube Music now. For 118SEK I get pretty much the same music as any other streaming service, PLUS all of youtube's content without ads, useful on chromecast. I realize you can get rid of the ads if you have a computer hooked up to your monitor but I really like the chromecast.
- skinkestek 5y ago
- stjohnswarts 5y agoI don't think so I think this has just blown up in the twitterverse and will be over in a couple of weeks because the twitterverse is only important in the short term and spotify knows that.
- Talanes 5y agoI was already primed to leave Spotify because of that very tension. I never had any desire to play music and podcasts in the same app: I swap between them pretty fluidly and the separate apps keep everything in context. So the second that the podcast side started to interfere with the music side in the slightest, I dipped.
- newaccount74 5y agoI think Spotify is getting onto thin ice. I subscribed to Spotify because I want to stream music, and I like that the bands I listen to get a bit of money. But when I hear that they are paying $100M to some controversial US podcaster (before Neil Young left Spotify I have never heard of Joe Rogan), I'm thinking, this isn't what I signed up for. I want my money to go towards German indie bands, not rich American celebrities. I don't know what the majority of Spotify listeners care about, but for my part I know I couldn't care less about podcasts, I just want to listen to music.
- vlunkr 5y agoI don't think they're on thin ice. Remember when people were boycotting Netflix over Cuties? Their stock prices recovered and everyone forgot. People have also boycotted YouTube or pulled their ads. These things just blow over.
- judge2020 5y agoThe budget of the film Cuties was under $1M, maybe a small bit more with Netflix's marketing involvement after the initial release (Netflix bought the rights to a worldwide release outside of France). Spotify just directly wiped tens of millions of dollars off their service and likely suffered more long-term lost subscriptions since people have already switched to YT Music or Apple Music; anyone that dropped Netflix had probably resubscribed by the time Squid Game was released.
- vlunkr 5y agoUnless I missed something, they lost a couple of artists that weren't exactly chart toppers, and a few episodes of a podcast. I don't see the fuss.
- fernandotakai 5y agoor dave chappelle. i mean, both dave and netflix are doing quite fine.
- Miner49er 5y ago