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So, it’s pretty serious. Spotify is paying Joe Rogan to broadcast disinformation that is getting people killed. I think it’s okay in this case if people have a

by tedd4u 5y ago

So, it’s pretty serious. Spotify is paying Joe Rogan to broadcast disinformation that is getting people killed. I think it’s okay in this case if people have a sudden change of opinion or a newly formed strong opinion. He didn’t crack an off color joke.

Covzire 5y ago
apolymath 5y ago
jonnyone 5y ago
>broadcast disinformation that is getting people killed. A statement many people appeal to that nobody can substantiate.
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ouEight12 5y ago
> that is getting people killed. Twice as many people died in the US last year from Heart Disease than from COVID, but I'm pretty sure we don't (yet) ban youtubers who extol the awesomeness of gluttonous fast food in weekly videos. At some point, people need to grow up and take responsibility for themselves, and also allow others to do the liberty to do the same. If someone is an adult, in the US, and not vax'd by now, that's on them. Period. Not anyone else. To put it another way, I owned not one, but two separate copies of "The Anarchists Cookbook" over the years growing up.. the number of governments I have, to date, attempted to overthrow? Zero. Why? Because I was capable of reviewing the offered material and going "yeah, not today prison, not today."
- assbuttbuttass 5y ago
  It is on other people though, because unvaccinated people have a higher chance of spreading COVID to others. We've been over this shit since the beginning of the pandemic, it's surprising and disappointing to see people still framing it as a purely individual decision.
  - lowkey 5y ago
    I’m genuinely curious what your source is for the claim that the unvaccinated have a higher chance of spreading COVID? According to this UC Davis/UCSF study [0] both vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals carry similar viral loads. The study found that while vaccinated individuals had fewer symptoms on average, both groups had similar viral loads. “There was no significant difference in viral load between vaccinated and unvaccinated, or between asymptomatic and symptomatic groups.“ [0] https://www.ucdavis.edu/health/covid-19/news/viral-loads-similar-between-vaccinated-and-unvaccinated-people https://www.ucdavis.edu/health/covid-19/news/viral-loads-sim...
    - JohnHaugeland 5y ago
      Viral load does not have anything to do with chance of spread. This is actually very easy to look up, if you put in the effort to do it correctly. I find that HN is really creaking under the weight of "I'm genuinely curious for you to look something up for me, I looked for werewolf shoes and I didn't find anything about this" This form of walrusing pretends to be diligent interest in factual information, but it's actually sloth, attempt to control others, and a giant "I don't know how to use search engines skillfully" sign around the neck
      - YATA0 5y ago
        >This form of walrusing Sealioning[0]. The term is sealioning... Your poor attempt at sounding smart has backfired and instead you sound like a dumbass. [0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning
        albedoa 5y ago
        Remember to switch back to your other account, Alok.
        YATA0 5y ago
        Who is Alok? Did you reply to the wrong thread? This is my only account.
- tzs 5y ago
  > Twice as many people died in the US last year from Heart Disease than from COVID, but I'm pretty sure we don't (yet) ban youtubers who extol the awesomeness of gluttonous fast food in weekly videos. That's not a useful comparison because death due to heart disease from gluttony has a quite different probability density function than does death due to COVID. The former is wide but not tall, the latter is narrow but tall. The first is a lot easier to deal with than the second when it comes to health care system capacity limits.
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by tedd4u 5y ago

Covzire 5y ago

apolymath 5y ago

jonnyone 5y ago

>broadcast disinformation that is getting people killed. A statement many people appeal to that nobody can substantiate.

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ouEight12 5y ago

> that is getting people killed. Twice as many people died in the US last year from Heart Disease than from COVID, but I'm pretty sure we don't (yet) ban youtubers who extol the awesomeness of gluttonous fast food in weekly videos. At some point, people need to grow up and take responsibility for themselves, and also allow others to do the liberty to do the same. If someone is an adult, in the US, and not vax'd by now, that's on them. Period. Not anyone else. To put it another way, I owned not one, but two separate copies of "The Anarchists Cookbook" over the years growing up.. the number of governments I have, to date, attempted to overthrow? Zero. Why? Because I was capable of reviewing the offered material and going "yeah, not today prison, not today."

assbuttbuttass 5y ago
It is on other people though, because unvaccinated people have a higher chance of spreading COVID to others. We've been over this shit since the beginning of the pandemic, it's surprising and disappointing to see people still framing it as a purely individual decision.
- lowkey 5y ago
  I’m genuinely curious what your source is for the claim that the unvaccinated have a higher chance of spreading COVID? According to this UC Davis/UCSF study [0] both vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals carry similar viral loads. The study found that while vaccinated individuals had fewer symptoms on average, both groups had similar viral loads. “There was no significant difference in viral load between vaccinated and unvaccinated, or between asymptomatic and symptomatic groups.“ [0] https://www.ucdavis.edu/health/covid-19/news/viral-loads-similar-between-vaccinated-and-unvaccinated-people https://www.ucdavis.edu/health/covid-19/news/viral-loads-sim...
  - JohnHaugeland 5y ago
    Viral load does not have anything to do with chance of spread. This is actually very easy to look up, if you put in the effort to do it correctly. I find that HN is really creaking under the weight of "I'm genuinely curious for you to look something up for me, I looked for werewolf shoes and I didn't find anything about this" This form of walrusing pretends to be diligent interest in factual information, but it's actually sloth, attempt to control others, and a giant "I don't know how to use search engines skillfully" sign around the neck
    - YATA0 5y ago
      >This form of walrusing Sealioning[0]. The term is sealioning... Your poor attempt at sounding smart has backfired and instead you sound like a dumbass. [0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning
      - albedoa 5y ago
        Remember to switch back to your other account, Alok.
        YATA0 5y ago
        Who is Alok? Did you reply to the wrong thread? This is my only account.
tzs 5y ago
> Twice as many people died in the US last year from Heart Disease than from COVID, but I'm pretty sure we don't (yet) ban youtubers who extol the awesomeness of gluttonous fast food in weekly videos. That's not a useful comparison because death due to heart disease from gluttony has a quite different probability density function than does death due to COVID. The former is wide but not tall, the latter is narrow but tall. The first is a lot easier to deal with than the second when it comes to health care system capacity limits.

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