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Yeah I do think that it's pretty implied heavily that it is indeed a 'mainline' entry in the series

by holtkam2 5y ago

curiousgal 5y ago
I mean the industry has a consistent history of bait & switch (or straight up lying) so I am not holding my breath.
- Victerius 5y ago
  Half-Life: Alyx has entered the chat.
  - Shared404 5y ago
    People were upset about that? A traditional "Half-Life 3" was never going to live up to the hype, the only hope for the series was something offering new experiences - and a game becoming the poster child for VR gaming seems pretty successful. People don't want "Half-Life 3". They want "Game-that-makes-me-feel-like-half-life-did". A standard M+Kb FPS isn't gonna do that anymore, they're well, standard.
    - deadbunny 5y ago
      > People don't want "Half-Life 3". They want "Game-that-makes-me-feel-like-half-life-did". A standard M+Kb FPS isn't gonna do that anymore, they're well, standard. I disagree. Sure there are tons of FPS games out there, 95% are multiplier focused and have minimal to zero story, and it was the story that people remember from the Half-Laife series IMO. Alyx was/is fantastic and really shows what it takes to make a VR game, everything game system wise "just works" and feels natural (on an Index at least), and the story was fine. Sure it's not HL3 but it's a good game in the HL universe. I think the problem with HL3 is that no matter what they deliver large chunks of people will be disappointed and Valve have zero need to release anything ever again so there is no pressure to even try.
      - Shared404 5y ago
        You may be right. I've never played Half Life, but am currently playing through the MCC largely for the story. They definitely missed the boat on releasing it though, or maybe <wishfulthinking>they're holding it and Portal 3 as Linux exclusives for when M$ steps too far</wishfulthinking>
    - KerrAvon 5y ago
      Are you kidding? Half Life 3 could still be a huge hit with a decent script and a modern engine. Not everything has to advance the state of the art. The Mandalorian doesn't do anything new. It puts you back in the Star Wars universe of the late 1970's, with a compelling set of characters, environments, and scripts to match. That's all a new Half Life (or Portal) game would have to do.
      - Reubachi 5y ago
        Agreed, but the elephant in the room is that Mandalorian is so popular with millennials + similar age groups because of the massive amounts of fan service in the show. It's not particularly fantastic writing or plot development. I would not want to have a HL3 that relied on "DAE Glados? DAE Team Fortress Hats?", and I really, really respect Valve for not doing that.
        deadbunny 5y ago
        I might be the exception here but I've really enjoyed The Mandolorian despite not liking the films. While it's set in the SW universe and has lots of references I probably don't notice them over obvious things like major characters showing up. For me it's a perfectly fine show, nothing groundbreaking but definitely above average.
    - leetcrew 5y ago
      yes, that is the official gaben explanation for hl3. I really doubt the original plan in 2007 was to wait indefinitely for some sufficiently cool new tech, but whatever. it doesn't really explain why hl2:ep3 never happened, despite having a mature engine to develop against. I think people would be a lot less upset if a "standard m+kb" ep3 that didn't end on such a cliffhanger had been released sometime around 2010.
      - Shared404 5y ago
        I definitely agree that it's a retconned explanation, but it also makes sense for where we are now in the games industry. I'm in my early 20's, and have never played HL. I suspect that's not super nonstandard. So I agree. It should've been released, but they missed the boat, and now we all have to live with it.

Yeah I do think that it's pretty implied heavily that it is indeed a 'mainline' entry in the series

curiousgal 5y ago

I mean the industry has a consistent history of bait & switch (or straight up lying) so I am not holding my breath.

Victerius 5y ago
Half-Life: Alyx has entered the chat.
- Shared404 5y ago
  People were upset about that? A traditional "Half-Life 3" was never going to live up to the hype, the only hope for the series was something offering new experiences - and a game becoming the poster child for VR gaming seems pretty successful. People don't want "Half-Life 3". They want "Game-that-makes-me-feel-like-half-life-did". A standard M+Kb FPS isn't gonna do that anymore, they're well, standard.
  - deadbunny 5y ago
    > People don't want "Half-Life 3". They want "Game-that-makes-me-feel-like-half-life-did". A standard M+Kb FPS isn't gonna do that anymore, they're well, standard. I disagree. Sure there are tons of FPS games out there, 95% are multiplier focused and have minimal to zero story, and it was the story that people remember from the Half-Laife series IMO. Alyx was/is fantastic and really shows what it takes to make a VR game, everything game system wise "just works" and feels natural (on an Index at least), and the story was fine. Sure it's not HL3 but it's a good game in the HL universe. I think the problem with HL3 is that no matter what they deliver large chunks of people will be disappointed and Valve have zero need to release anything ever again so there is no pressure to even try.
    - Shared404 5y ago
      You may be right. I've never played Half Life, but am currently playing through the MCC largely for the story. They definitely missed the boat on releasing it though, or maybe <wishfulthinking>they're holding it and Portal 3 as Linux exclusives for when M$ steps too far</wishfulthinking>
  - KerrAvon 5y ago
    Are you kidding? Half Life 3 could still be a huge hit with a decent script and a modern engine. Not everything has to advance the state of the art. The Mandalorian doesn't do anything new. It puts you back in the Star Wars universe of the late 1970's, with a compelling set of characters, environments, and scripts to match. That's all a new Half Life (or Portal) game would have to do.
    - Reubachi 5y ago
      Agreed, but the elephant in the room is that Mandalorian is so popular with millennials + similar age groups because of the massive amounts of fan service in the show. It's not particularly fantastic writing or plot development. I would not want to have a HL3 that relied on "DAE Glados? DAE Team Fortress Hats?", and I really, really respect Valve for not doing that.
      - deadbunny 5y ago
        I might be the exception here but I've really enjoyed The Mandolorian despite not liking the films. While it's set in the SW universe and has lots of references I probably don't notice them over obvious things like major characters showing up. For me it's a perfectly fine show, nothing groundbreaking but definitely above average.
  - leetcrew 5y ago
    yes, that is the official gaben explanation for hl3. I really doubt the original plan in 2007 was to wait indefinitely for some sufficiently cool new tech, but whatever. it doesn't really explain why hl2:ep3 never happened, despite having a mature engine to develop against. I think people would be a lot less upset if a "standard m+kb" ep3 that didn't end on such a cliffhanger had been released sometime around 2010.
    - Shared404 5y ago
      I definitely agree that it's a retconned explanation, but it also makes sense for where we are now in the games industry. I'm in my early 20's, and have never played HL. I suspect that's not super nonstandard. So I agree. It should've been released, but they missed the boat, and now we all have to live with it.