That's also missing the point somewhat. Put the best two programmers in the world in a shitty system that rewards them for the wrong things and they will produc

That's also missing the point somewhat. Put the best two programmers in the world in a shitty system that rewards them for the wrong things and they will produce garbage. Put mediocre programmers in a fantastic system that brings out the best in their collaboration and you might actually get to market sooner and better than the other group.