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This should be changed so the end user gets to decide what payment service to use. I don't want to download and app and have to insert my credit card ever and I

This should be changed so the end user gets to decide what payment service to use. I don't want to download and app and have to insert my credit card ever and I want to cancel subscriptions in one place the way I can now. It should not be up to the developer to choose how I pay them, only the amount.

schmorptron 5y ago
Good point! If people are happy to pay 13€ instead of 10€ for the convenience of using the platform owner's payment system, that should always be an option.
- disiplus 5y ago
  the app maker should have the complete freedom what payment options he offers. if i want you to pay me in stones that is my freedom, the same you are free to not use my app and find another app that offers methods that you like.
  - john_minsk 5y ago
    Great point. Also true: I already have some level of trust with Apple(I bought their device), not you. So Apple should return more relevant results for me on AppStore or even allow me to filter out those apps, that doesn’t support preferred option of payment. Will you agree with such setting?
    - ThatPlayer 5y ago
      I don't mind it being a filter, but I think them sorting them like that by default could be an issue. Would you equivalate it to developers paying for higher search ranking? Apple favoring their own services over others definitely could be an anti-trust issue.
stale2002 5y ago
Sure. A reasonable compromise would be that the app developer puts Apple's payment system in the app, for you to use, but all transparently tells you that you have to pay the 30% Apple fee yourself. So, you'd be shown 2 options. Option 1 would be their payment processor, and option 2 would be Apple's. And you could choose to pay an extra 30% to use Apple's. Problem solved right? Everyone gets what they want, and pays the appropriate fee.
lifty 5y ago
Card details can be stored in the phone and the OS can offer a payments API through which any payment provider can integrate. Similarly to how the File Provider API works.

schmorptron 5y ago

Good point! If people are happy to pay 13€ instead of 10€ for the convenience of using the platform owner's payment system, that should always be an option.

disiplus 5y ago
the app maker should have the complete freedom what payment options he offers. if i want you to pay me in stones that is my freedom, the same you are free to not use my app and find another app that offers methods that you like.
- john_minsk 5y ago
  Great point. Also true: I already have some level of trust with Apple(I bought their device), not you. So Apple should return more relevant results for me on AppStore or even allow me to filter out those apps, that doesn’t support preferred option of payment. Will you agree with such setting?
  - ThatPlayer 5y ago
    I don't mind it being a filter, but I think them sorting them like that by default could be an issue. Would you equivalate it to developers paying for higher search ranking? Apple favoring their own services over others definitely could be an anti-trust issue.

stale2002 5y ago

Sure. A reasonable compromise would be that the app developer puts Apple's payment system in the app, for you to use, but all transparently tells you that you have to pay the 30% Apple fee yourself. So, you'd be shown 2 options. Option 1 would be their payment processor, and option 2 would be Apple's. And you could choose to pay an extra 30% to use Apple's. Problem solved right? Everyone gets what they want, and pays the appropriate fee.

lifty 5y ago

Card details can be stored in the phone and the OS can offer a payments API through which any payment provider can integrate. Similarly to how the File Provider API works.