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Have you noticed a difference depending on when they got into web development/whether they trained for it? One thing I'm noticing as I'm looking for tech jobs

by Mezzie 5y ago

Have you noticed a difference depending on when they got into web development/whether they trained for it? One thing I'm noticing as I'm looking for tech jobs as a tech person who hasn't ever been a tech employee before is that a lot of the job listings are very heavily tool focused. I wonder if newer/junior devs are reacting to what the market is presenting (as you hinted at with 'The more complex they can make something, the better they think it will look on their resume').

jack_riminton 5y ago
Junior dev here (but a career changer at aged 35), I initially learned Ruby/Rails at bootcamp 80% of the market is looking for some React + backend and there's a huge pressure to learn such an SPA framework but I've steadfastly refused and have stuck to 'full-stack' Rails. Luckily there's a resurgence going on for Rails and I think it's going to last. Boring always wins in the end
- Mezzie 5y ago
  I'm your polar inverse: I'm 33 but started coding when I was 4, I've just never worked as a developer (at least not on a team; I've done freelance), and I'm debating making the jump as inflation starts creeping up. I run into the opposite problem: I've played around in frameworks but I don't have the 'years of experience' with them so I worry my resume is going straight in the trash.
  - jack_riminton 5y ago
    4?! I wouldn't worry, all you need is the first job in whatever stack and last a year and you're set
    - Mezzie 5y ago
      Ha, I had a very nerdy upbringing. My grandfather was obsessed with TVs and ran a side repair business, and then in turn my dad got into micro-computers and PCs. On my mom's side, we've got a bunch of engineers and sci-fi nerds. I learned to type before I could write, and I learned to read by playing things like Dragon Warrior with my dad. I was also a hyperlexic little weirdo who did things like read the SimEarth manual for fun when I was 5 and decided to explain the differences between prokaryotes and eukaryotes to anybody who would listen. So when we got Web access in '93, I was all in. And I loved getting to do something where all that mattered was how good I was at it, since I was bored senseless in school. I very much had an upbringing like Larry Page's. I'm just a lot dumber than he is. Edit: I also doubt you could do that now, on reflection. So much of learning programming is based on feedback and I could only collaborate because nobody asked how old you were and/or if they did, they assumed I was lying. Up until I was about 11, it was assumed I was somebody who just didn't want to share any personal information online/a privacy freak who was making up a stupid answer. "Okay, haha, you're a 7 year old girl. Fine. I won't ask."

by Mezzie 5y ago

jack_riminton 5y ago

Junior dev here (but a career changer at aged 35), I initially learned Ruby/Rails at bootcamp 80% of the market is looking for some React + backend and there's a huge pressure to learn such an SPA framework but I've steadfastly refused and have stuck to 'full-stack' Rails. Luckily there's a resurgence going on for Rails and I think it's going to last. Boring always wins in the end

Mezzie 5y ago
I'm your polar inverse: I'm 33 but started coding when I was 4, I've just never worked as a developer (at least not on a team; I've done freelance), and I'm debating making the jump as inflation starts creeping up. I run into the opposite problem: I've played around in frameworks but I don't have the 'years of experience' with them so I worry my resume is going straight in the trash.
- jack_riminton 5y ago
  4?! I wouldn't worry, all you need is the first job in whatever stack and last a year and you're set
  - Mezzie 5y ago
    Ha, I had a very nerdy upbringing. My grandfather was obsessed with TVs and ran a side repair business, and then in turn my dad got into micro-computers and PCs. On my mom's side, we've got a bunch of engineers and sci-fi nerds. I learned to type before I could write, and I learned to read by playing things like Dragon Warrior with my dad. I was also a hyperlexic little weirdo who did things like read the SimEarth manual for fun when I was 5 and decided to explain the differences between prokaryotes and eukaryotes to anybody who would listen. So when we got Web access in '93, I was all in. And I loved getting to do something where all that mattered was how good I was at it, since I was bored senseless in school. I very much had an upbringing like Larry Page's. I'm just a lot dumber than he is. Edit: I also doubt you could do that now, on reflection. So much of learning programming is based on feedback and I could only collaborate because nobody asked how old you were and/or if they did, they assumed I was lying. Up until I was about 11, it was assumed I was somebody who just didn't want to share any personal information online/a privacy freak who was making up a stupid answer. "Okay, haha, you're a 7 year old girl. Fine. I won't ask."