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"What did intensely lower the severity of the disease without the slightest doubt from my side". Hmmm I don't see how you can be so sure that something you took

"What did intensely lower the severity of the disease without the slightest doubt from my side". Hmmm I don't see how you can be so sure that something you took is the cause for getting better. You can get better for a lot of reasons, one being your immune system winning the battle on its own. It's a common misconception that getting better after taking some medicine proves it works. To prove a medicine works, we have to go through those double-blind clinical trials. Anyway, you're suggesting that instead of vaccines, omicron could be dealt with with Vit B(complex), C, D, K2, magnesium, zink, potassium, melatonine, R-alpha-lipoic acid, Q10, and probiotics. That sounds a lot of things compared to 1 or 2 vaccine shots per years. So you say you prefer a combination of lots of medicines with potential side effects, plus it's hard to know how they could interfere. Sounds weird if your reason for not wanting vaccine is the side effects, as there is a lot of data for the vaccine thanks to clinical trials, as opposed to custom combinations of vitamines, minerals, probiotics, and Q10? what's that? Sounds like you see anything coming "from the elites" as dangerous and dishonest, whereas anything coming from "the people", the "common sense" is reliable and safe. I guess these discussions are deeply about "trusting official institutions" vs "trusting random people claims". There's no convincing anyone if the premises are that the goal of official institutions is to conspire against the people for the benefit of the powerful. And even if it was true, 1) I'm not sure how getting people vaccinated benefits the powerful vs other medicines, 2) it doesn't mean random people claims are correct. It seems you'd believe anything as long as it's opposed to official claims about vaccines. It's a binary view: either one trusts official institutions and everything he say is wrong, either one is against official institutions claims and everything he say is right. I tend to trust official institutions more than random people, as it's easier to lie/be wrong when you're not accountable for anything.

ls15 5y ago
> Anyway, you're suggesting that instead of vaccines, omicron could be dealt with with Vit B(complex), C, D, K2, magnesium, zink, potassium, melatonine, R-alpha-lipoic acid, Q10, and probiotics. That sounds a lot of things compared to 1 or 2 vaccine shots per years. This is a false dichotomy, because you can be vaccinated and still get symptomatic or even severe Covid. Didn't I mention that I was vaccinated? Get vaccinated, I recommend it. Just don't force anyone else to get vaccinated. What I am suggesting is that you can be vaccinated and still need something else on top of that in order to recover. Pfizer has a new pill, maybe you'd prefer that. I also would not call my assortment random or "medicine". I am not advising you to take it against Covid, but I am sharing my experience with it. All substances that I mention are part of a healthy human body and there is a ton of science that backs up their critical roles in bodily functions and the immune system. There just haven't been huge clinical trials that prove that they can cUrE COvId.
- qsdf38100 5y ago
  I don't think any clinical trials claimed they would "cUrE COvId" for sure. IIRC they showed more than 70+% efficiency in preventing infections, so it seemed like our best weapon against covid. People then hoped it could end the pandemic, and exaggerated claims have been made by a lot of people, I guess, and maybe some governments. The clinical trials didn't claimed that.
  - ls15 5y ago
    While the scientific data has been clear (absolute risk reduction of vaccines about 1% for the early strains of the virus) the public discourse seems totally detached from the science. People are still saying things like "I'd rather get the jab instead of Covid.", which shows that they are not aware of the possibility that they can still get Covid. I think this is the result of a massive bias in the media that did not allow even mentioning the slightest fact that makes the vaccines seem not so awesome. And we haven't even started to talk about the myocarditis risk for young males.

ls15 5y ago

> Anyway, you're suggesting that instead of vaccines, omicron could be dealt with with Vit B(complex), C, D, K2, magnesium, zink, potassium, melatonine, R-alpha-lipoic acid, Q10, and probiotics. That sounds a lot of things compared to 1 or 2 vaccine shots per years. This is a false dichotomy, because you can be vaccinated and still get symptomatic or even severe Covid. Didn't I mention that I was vaccinated? Get vaccinated, I recommend it. Just don't force anyone else to get vaccinated. What I am suggesting is that you can be vaccinated and still need something else on top of that in order to recover. Pfizer has a new pill, maybe you'd prefer that. I also would not call my assortment random or "medicine". I am not advising you to take it against Covid, but I am sharing my experience with it. All substances that I mention are part of a healthy human body and there is a ton of science that backs up their critical roles in bodily functions and the immune system. There just haven't been huge clinical trials that prove that they can cUrE COvId.

qsdf38100 5y ago
I don't think any clinical trials claimed they would "cUrE COvId" for sure. IIRC they showed more than 70+% efficiency in preventing infections, so it seemed like our best weapon against covid. People then hoped it could end the pandemic, and exaggerated claims have been made by a lot of people, I guess, and maybe some governments. The clinical trials didn't claimed that.
- ls15 5y ago
  While the scientific data has been clear (absolute risk reduction of vaccines about 1% for the early strains of the virus) the public discourse seems totally detached from the science. People are still saying things like "I'd rather get the jab instead of Covid.", which shows that they are not aware of the possibility that they can still get Covid. I think this is the result of a massive bias in the media that did not allow even mentioning the slightest fact that makes the vaccines seem not so awesome. And we haven't even started to talk about the myocarditis risk for young males.