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Yes! I don't earn money to watch it sit in the bank. If there's something fun out there that I might like to buy, show it to me!

tetraca 5y ago
This mindset is so weird to me. I can't imagine just wanting to buy things for the sake of buying things. I generally only buy things because I have problems I recognize and want to solve. And the more heavily advertised a solution to one of my problems is, the more I inherently distrust it to actually be a quality lasting product/service instead of something that's just desperately trying to program me that it's actually good.
- tiborsaas 5y ago
  I'm doing the same as paulcole. If I already want to buy things, like a new table for my living room or new tiles for my bathroom, then I do want to see what's on the market beyond my bubble. That's not because I'm manipulated into buying them[1]. If I see a new ad and I like it, I do check if I can get same product for a cheaper price from a company who's ad budget is not baked into the price. Basically I can use targeted ads as a free product discovery engine. Seeing an ad doesn't mean I'm going to mindlessly buy it. I know some people do that, but there's a way to make use of the situation. [1] there might be an evil conspiracy among kitchen table manufacturing companies who teamed up with Hollywood producers to sell me the idea that I want a loft style new kitchen table :)
- ddingus 5y ago
  I go back and forth. I like to buy things myself, but I generally have a purpose of some sort, or having used similar things, am targeting a very robust thing that I can camp on and use for a decade or two. A good friend is always buying products, trying them out, gadgets and such. And they spend a lot, but they are always super happy with their new things and frankly, give me a lot of their older things so they can get more new things! (that's crazy, but they do them, and we are great friends, and I make good use of the stuff falling my way too) That said, I generally don't gauge off the AD campaigns. Big spends are a rational choice as are modest ones and or guerilla type campaigns, which the latent rebel in me is a sucker for. What I can say, knowing someone like that, is they are entertained by new things. I'm sometimes that way, but it's rare. Like a great watch might do that, or some cool tech thing I can use with my hobby computing / making. But, my entertainment is more centered on doing stuff, and or hanging with people, maybe doing things with them. I do hate getting a thing that sucks. Shuts me down for quite a while. I LOVE a good score, like a thing that is just awesome and I know it will perform for ages.
- paulcole 5y ago
  When I die, I can’t take my money with me. Gotta do something with it.
  - tetraca 5y ago
    You can't take anything else, either. Not your toys, not your memories.
FearlessNebula 5y ago
I guess im talking about something else. You’re talking about being shown ads that are related to your interests which is fine with me. I’m talking about Facebook radicalizing people and manipulating their viewpoints and selling them on things they otherwise would have never wanted in a million years if they hadn’t used Facebook. I’m not talking “Facebook showed me a cool pen and I like to collect fountain pens so I bought it”, no issues there. I’m talking “Facebook radicalized and manipulated me and now I am buying extremist books and courses that I otherwise never would have”. The latter is why I disable targeted ads. Because it just an order of magnitude beyond “showing me relevant products”
- tiborsaas 5y ago
  If you can be manipulated by ads to be a terrorist I guess you have greater problems than tracking. In this case I'd say it's better for the public if these people are keep getting tracked.
  - FearlessNebula 5y ago
    Not sure where you grabbed terrorism from…
    - tiborsaas 5y ago
      "radicalizing people and manipulating their viewpoints" it doesn't matter though
  - nonameiguess 5y ago
    It's not about him. Society at large has a problem if any people at all are able to be manipulated like this. And clearly, some are.

tetraca 5y ago

This mindset is so weird to me. I can't imagine just wanting to buy things for the sake of buying things. I generally only buy things because I have problems I recognize and want to solve. And the more heavily advertised a solution to one of my problems is, the more I inherently distrust it to actually be a quality lasting product/service instead of something that's just desperately trying to program me that it's actually good.

tiborsaas 5y ago
I'm doing the same as paulcole. If I already want to buy things, like a new table for my living room or new tiles for my bathroom, then I do want to see what's on the market beyond my bubble. That's not because I'm manipulated into buying them[1]. If I see a new ad and I like it, I do check if I can get same product for a cheaper price from a company who's ad budget is not baked into the price. Basically I can use targeted ads as a free product discovery engine. Seeing an ad doesn't mean I'm going to mindlessly buy it. I know some people do that, but there's a way to make use of the situation. [1] there might be an evil conspiracy among kitchen table manufacturing companies who teamed up with Hollywood producers to sell me the idea that I want a loft style new kitchen table :)
ddingus 5y ago
I go back and forth. I like to buy things myself, but I generally have a purpose of some sort, or having used similar things, am targeting a very robust thing that I can camp on and use for a decade or two. A good friend is always buying products, trying them out, gadgets and such. And they spend a lot, but they are always super happy with their new things and frankly, give me a lot of their older things so they can get more new things! (that's crazy, but they do them, and we are great friends, and I make good use of the stuff falling my way too) That said, I generally don't gauge off the AD campaigns. Big spends are a rational choice as are modest ones and or guerilla type campaigns, which the latent rebel in me is a sucker for. What I can say, knowing someone like that, is they are entertained by new things. I'm sometimes that way, but it's rare. Like a great watch might do that, or some cool tech thing I can use with my hobby computing / making. But, my entertainment is more centered on doing stuff, and or hanging with people, maybe doing things with them. I do hate getting a thing that sucks. Shuts me down for quite a while. I LOVE a good score, like a thing that is just awesome and I know it will perform for ages.
paulcole 5y ago
When I die, I can’t take my money with me. Gotta do something with it.
- tetraca 5y ago
  You can't take anything else, either. Not your toys, not your memories.

FearlessNebula 5y ago

I guess im talking about something else. You’re talking about being shown ads that are related to your interests which is fine with me. I’m talking about Facebook radicalizing people and manipulating their viewpoints and selling them on things they otherwise would have never wanted in a million years if they hadn’t used Facebook. I’m not talking “Facebook showed me a cool pen and I like to collect fountain pens so I bought it”, no issues there. I’m talking “Facebook radicalized and manipulated me and now I am buying extremist books and courses that I otherwise never would have”. The latter is why I disable targeted ads. Because it just an order of magnitude beyond “showing me relevant products”

tiborsaas 5y ago
If you can be manipulated by ads to be a terrorist I guess you have greater problems than tracking. In this case I'd say it's better for the public if these people are keep getting tracked.
- FearlessNebula 5y ago
  Not sure where you grabbed terrorism from…
  - tiborsaas 5y ago
    "radicalizing people and manipulating their viewpoints" it doesn't matter though
- nonameiguess 5y ago
  It's not about him. Society at large has a problem if any people at all are able to be manipulated like this. And clearly, some are.