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78% of homes have a computer in them. [0] I don't know anyone who does not use a PC for personal use, and my non-work social circles are not at all techie domin

78% of homes have a computer in them. [0] I don't know anyone who does not use a PC for personal use, and my non-work social circles are not at all techie dominated. Also I'm not talking about 2021: I'm talking about years ago when Facebook moved away from prioritizing the PC platform. Maybe it wouldn't have mattered, I don't know, but when FB became a primary entry point to the internet for many people, and FB then mostly ignored desktop experience, it certainly accelerated any decline already in place. But had they enriched that experience, maybe there'd still be a much stronger following there. [0]https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2021/computer-internet-use.html https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2021/computer...

scarface74 5y ago
55% of all web traffic worldwide comes from mobile. https://www.statista.com/statistics/277125/share-of-website-traffic-coming-from-mobile-devices/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/277125/share-of-website-... And considering that most people spend 8 hours a day at work, how much personal usage on the web comes from the desktop? How many younger people are using computers for personal use - especially if it a shared family computer. Heck I am a software developer and my personal computer is just sitting in a corner as a Plex server. I haven’t used it for anything productive in a year and a half and that was for updating my resume. Besides that, Facebook got more popular because of mobile when everyone had a camera in their pocket with GPS when they csn post the highlights of their life. Not to mention WhatsApp is all about communicating real time and Instagram is about sharing pictures.
- ipaddr 5y ago
  So you do no personal development on a desktop? Do you use your work's equipment? Are you using your phone? I have three desktops on the go all day. Three keyboards in front of me and three mice. I run Windows 7, 10 and ubuntu and another ubuntu under windows 10. Trading that in for my mobile is very limiting.
  - scarface74 5y ago
    I develop to trade labor for money. The last thing I want to do when I get off work is more computer work. If I’m just doing a hobby project proof of concept to learn a new for me technology, I would do that on my work computer. We have a very liberal open source process where we can open source a project under: https://github.com/aws-samples https://github.com/aws-samples That only requires going through a simple process. That also means I have unlimited admin access to multiple dev AWS accounts using our internal tool that we can’t name but almost everyone knows about. If/when I leave, I can just fork it and continue to work on it if no one else is interested in maintaining it. Otherwise, submit a pull request. Any outside work I would do would be considered “consulting” - the same thing I do on my $DayJob. That would clearly be a conflict of interest.
    - ipaddr 5y ago
      I can imagine working at Amazon taking away your desire to do anything outside of work. Did you feel the same way before Amazon?
      - scarface74 5y ago
        I’ve felt the same way for 25 years. I haven’t programmed as a hobbyist since graduating from college in 1996. BTW, I would never want to be an SDE at Amazon. I don’t do on call. I work in consulting. We are told that we are “in charge of our own calendar”. Meaning that if we are putting in more than 40 hours regularly, we aren’t managing our projects correctly. On a day to day basis, my actual manager only has a high level idea of what I’m working on. We as consultants guide our project implementations.
  - GekkePrutser 5y ago
    Yeah same here. I have big screens around me everywhere. Why poke at a tiny 6.5" even I have 24" 4K glory and support efficient keyboard input?
- zuminator 5y ago
  Worldwide contains a lot of places without personal computer friendly economics. The corresponding stat in the USA is about 47% by way of comparison. https://www.statista.com/statistics/683082/share-of-website-traffic-coming-from-mobile-devices-usa/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/683082/share-of-website-...
Brendinooo 5y ago
Anecdata, but I'm teaching a coding class for 10-12 year olds and most of them don't know their way around a laptop. Most of their work has been done on tablets or maybe phones. It wouldn't surprise me at all to learn that huge chunks of demographics don't really use desktops or laptops all that much.
- GekkePrutser 5y ago
  Doesn't that make them really inefficient? I couldn't imagine efficiently coding on a phone or even tablet without adding a keyboard, mouse and larger screen (eg Samsung DeX) which will basically make it a laptop or desktop.
  - scarface74 5y ago
    I think he meant before entering his class they didn’t know their way around a computer.
    - Brendinooo 5y ago
      You're correct. Apologies for writing that could be misinterpreted.

scarface74 5y ago

55% of all web traffic worldwide comes from mobile. https://www.statista.com/statistics/277125/share-of-website-traffic-coming-from-mobile-devices/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/277125/share-of-website-... And considering that most people spend 8 hours a day at work, how much personal usage on the web comes from the desktop? How many younger people are using computers for personal use - especially if it a shared family computer. Heck I am a software developer and my personal computer is just sitting in a corner as a Plex server. I haven’t used it for anything productive in a year and a half and that was for updating my resume. Besides that, Facebook got more popular because of mobile when everyone had a camera in their pocket with GPS when they csn post the highlights of their life. Not to mention WhatsApp is all about communicating real time and Instagram is about sharing pictures.

ipaddr 5y ago
So you do no personal development on a desktop? Do you use your work's equipment? Are you using your phone? I have three desktops on the go all day. Three keyboards in front of me and three mice. I run Windows 7, 10 and ubuntu and another ubuntu under windows 10. Trading that in for my mobile is very limiting.
- scarface74 5y ago
  I develop to trade labor for money. The last thing I want to do when I get off work is more computer work. If I’m just doing a hobby project proof of concept to learn a new for me technology, I would do that on my work computer. We have a very liberal open source process where we can open source a project under: https://github.com/aws-samples https://github.com/aws-samples That only requires going through a simple process. That also means I have unlimited admin access to multiple dev AWS accounts using our internal tool that we can’t name but almost everyone knows about. If/when I leave, I can just fork it and continue to work on it if no one else is interested in maintaining it. Otherwise, submit a pull request. Any outside work I would do would be considered “consulting” - the same thing I do on my $DayJob. That would clearly be a conflict of interest.
  - ipaddr 5y ago
    I can imagine working at Amazon taking away your desire to do anything outside of work. Did you feel the same way before Amazon?
    - scarface74 5y ago
      I’ve felt the same way for 25 years. I haven’t programmed as a hobbyist since graduating from college in 1996. BTW, I would never want to be an SDE at Amazon. I don’t do on call. I work in consulting. We are told that we are “in charge of our own calendar”. Meaning that if we are putting in more than 40 hours regularly, we aren’t managing our projects correctly. On a day to day basis, my actual manager only has a high level idea of what I’m working on. We as consultants guide our project implementations.
- GekkePrutser 5y ago
  Yeah same here. I have big screens around me everywhere. Why poke at a tiny 6.5" even I have 24" 4K glory and support efficient keyboard input?
zuminator 5y ago
Worldwide contains a lot of places without personal computer friendly economics. The corresponding stat in the USA is about 47% by way of comparison. https://www.statista.com/statistics/683082/share-of-website-traffic-coming-from-mobile-devices-usa/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/683082/share-of-website-...

Brendinooo 5y ago

Anecdata, but I'm teaching a coding class for 10-12 year olds and most of them don't know their way around a laptop. Most of their work has been done on tablets or maybe phones. It wouldn't surprise me at all to learn that huge chunks of demographics don't really use desktops or laptops all that much.

GekkePrutser 5y ago
Doesn't that make them really inefficient? I couldn't imagine efficiently coding on a phone or even tablet without adding a keyboard, mouse and larger screen (eg Samsung DeX) which will basically make it a laptop or desktop.
- scarface74 5y ago
  I think he meant before entering his class they didn’t know their way around a computer.
  - Brendinooo 5y ago
    You're correct. Apologies for writing that could be misinterpreted.