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Certainly there can be dangers when government funds research, and especially when it's the military arm. But (democratic) governments at least have a purported
by armoredkitten 5y ago
Certainly there can be dangers when government funds research, and especially when it's the military arm. But (democratic) governments at least have a purported interest in the public good, whereas other funding sources (i.e., private industry) do not. Whatever conflicts of interest government can create in science, private industry only magnifies them. And governments are more likely to fund basic research, which serves as a solid foundation for applied research that private industry tends to be more interested in. It's also ludicrous to suggest that government funding "crowds out" private science. Grants aren't "free money" -- you have to justify your costs and, you know, do the actual work. You have to provide status reports to demonstrate that you are doing the work. Government grants aren't welfare.
There's certainly a debate that can be had with regard to how government funds science. How are grants determined? Which departments are the primary funders of research? How "equitably" are grant dollars spread out (i.e., is it a few large grants, or many small ones)? It's important to see this as part of the discussion regarding the health of a democracy. But public funding is absolutely a major force for good when it comes to scientific research. The idea that it turns it into some weird scientific "priesthood" is completely LUDICROUS.
- loudtieblahblah 5y ago>purported interest in the public good, In theory. In reality, find me a branch of government not captured and bent to the will of one or more industries. Find me senators not bought and paid for. find me regulatory bodies not captured and full of revolving door positions staffed with industry insiders. The state doesn't live in a bubble. It's not theory of "hey democracy works on paper". It's a real thing and much more complicated. The people are often bent to the will of the state rather than the state bending to the will of people. I can cite endless popular positions that fail to get any meaningful traction for a decade or more. What you get itls actors in capital with an agenda, media and silicon Valley propoganda, and flaccid politicians who walk a line between pretending to rep the people while reppibg their sponsors.