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Interesting, although the linked article suggests that claim is disputed.

by srmarm 5y ago

scoot 5y ago
It's also what the actual headline alludes to, and the subheading makes clear. OP has editorialized the post title to be more clickbaity.
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- adamjb 5y ago
  OP posted it with the original headline https://web.archive.org/web/20220203013548/https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/feb/03/captain-cook-ship-endeavour-identified-confirmed-shipwreck-us-rhode-island https://web.archive.org/web/20220203013548/https://www.thegu... They submitted at 2022-02-03T03:09:31 [0] but this post got re-upped by the mods, as they sometimes do for submissions they feel deserve a second chance [1] [0] as you can confirm by mousing over where it currently, erroneously, says "3 hours" [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11662380 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11662380
  - scoot 5y ago
    Correct about the re-up (good catch!), but not about the headline, which at the time that it was originally posted here was "Ship fight: row erupts over wreck in US waters identified as Captain Cook’s Endeavour"[1]. (Note the use of the word "identified" in OP's title, not "confirmed" as in the original version of the article that you linked to.) https://web.archive.org/web/20220203024757/https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/feb/03/captain-cook-ship-endeavour-identified-confirmed-shipwreck-us-rhode-island https://web.archive.org/web/20220203024757/https://www.thegu...
- dfawcus 5y ago
  That piece is interesting in that they suggest how one may probably identify it as being the Endeavour. That was by establishing the timbers are English Oak, as they indicate the other wrecks were built from American or Indian timbers. So if they have done that, then combined with the detail in the recent article about matching to the plans, it may well be reasonable to assign a high probability of it being the Endeavour. So maybe not 'proof', but a reasonable high probability assumption. Unless they find specific unique details from that ship in the wreck, what else could count as 'definite' proof?
  - scoot 5y ago
    Apologies, I edit the parent comment to remove mention of the other article with the intention of posting it as a separate comment, around the same time you posted this reply. For context here's what @dfawcus was replying to since I can no longer edit back in: > Here's a related article from 2018 with a bit more historical context: https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/sep/19/wreck-of-captain-cooks-hms-endeavour-discovered-off-coast-of-america https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/sep/19/wreck...

Interesting, although the linked article suggests that claim is disputed.

by srmarm 5y ago

Interesting, although the linked article suggests that claim is disputed.

It's also what the actual headline alludes to, and the subheading makes clear. OP has editorialized the post title to be more clickbaity.

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adamjb 5y ago
OP posted it with the original headline https://web.archive.org/web/20220203013548/https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/feb/03/captain-cook-ship-endeavour-identified-confirmed-shipwreck-us-rhode-island https://web.archive.org/web/20220203013548/https://www.thegu... They submitted at 2022-02-03T03:09:31 [0] but this post got re-upped by the mods, as they sometimes do for submissions they feel deserve a second chance [1] [0] as you can confirm by mousing over where it currently, erroneously, says "3 hours" [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11662380 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11662380
- scoot 5y ago
  Correct about the re-up (good catch!), but not about the headline, which at the time that it was originally posted here was "Ship fight: row erupts over wreck in US waters identified as Captain Cook’s Endeavour"[1]. (Note the use of the word "identified" in OP's title, not "confirmed" as in the original version of the article that you linked to.) https://web.archive.org/web/20220203024757/https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/feb/03/captain-cook-ship-endeavour-identified-confirmed-shipwreck-us-rhode-island https://web.archive.org/web/20220203024757/https://www.thegu...
dfawcus 5y ago
That piece is interesting in that they suggest how one may probably identify it as being the Endeavour. That was by establishing the timbers are English Oak, as they indicate the other wrecks were built from American or Indian timbers. So if they have done that, then combined with the detail in the recent article about matching to the plans, it may well be reasonable to assign a high probability of it being the Endeavour. So maybe not 'proof', but a reasonable high probability assumption. Unless they find specific unique details from that ship in the wreck, what else could count as 'definite' proof?
- scoot 5y ago
  Apologies, I edit the parent comment to remove mention of the other article with the intention of posting it as a separate comment, around the same time you posted this reply. For context here's what @dfawcus was replying to since I can no longer edit back in: > Here's a related article from 2018 with a bit more historical context: https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/sep/19/wreck-of-captain-cooks-hms-endeavour-discovered-off-coast-of-america https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/sep/19/wreck...