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What would that payment be for from Facebook? Opinions aside, Google are paying for a thing, not just donating money. What would Facebook pay for? I'm not sure

What would that payment be for from Facebook? Opinions aside, Google are paying for a thing, not just donating money. What would Facebook pay for? I'm not sure that them being a search engine makes sense, I don't think Apple would give up the position of iMessage in favour of Messenger. (Disclaimer, I work at Google, but don't have any inside info or opinion on the Apple/Google relationship.)

00000000005 5y ago
> What would that payment be for from Facebook? To live. This is Tim’s town and if you think you’re doing business and cutting Tim out then you’ve got $10b concrete boots coming.
- gls2ro 5y ago
  I think Google as the default search engine on Safari is a big win. How is that just an excuse to hand over money? Do think that putting DuckDuckGo as default in Safari will not have any influence in either DuckDuckGo or Google market share?
  - patrec 5y ago
    Right, like as without those 5B Apple would screw up its products by handing over all search to some guy with a Bing scraping Perl script cosplaying as a search engine.
- yokoprime 5y ago
  I'm not sure if you're shitposting or actually replying. Alphabet pays Apple to be the default search-engine in Safari. Thats it, Google are not exempt from Apples privacy policies. Google dragged their feed after the iOS 15 privacy changes, but in the end had to cave.
  - Iolaum 5y ago
    Apple's privacy policies are not set in stone. They are more like pray I don't alter the deal further. ATM only Apple can stop Apple from deciding they want no tracking done by search engine providers in iOS apps.
- dang 5y ago
  Please stop creating accounts to post unsubstantive comments and flamebait. It destroys what this place is supposed to be for, and will eventually get your main account banned as well. If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here, we'd appreciate it.
chunkyguy 5y ago
Wasn't there a time where you could sign in to facebook at the system level? They could pay to get it back https://www.cnet.com/how-to/understanding-facebook-integration-on-ios-6/ https://www.cnet.com/how-to/understanding-facebook-integrati...
hnlmorg 5y ago
> I'm not sure that them being a search engine makes sense It really does. Want to search for a local house cleaner or children's entertainer, include Facebook pages with web results. Want to search for things to do in a particular town, include Facebook events with web results about museums and such like. This is just scratching the surface too. There are lots of possibilities here so I'd be very surprised if Facebook haven't explored this idea.

00000000005 5y ago

> What would that payment be for from Facebook? To live. This is Tim’s town and if you think you’re doing business and cutting Tim out then you’ve got $10b concrete boots coming.

gls2ro 5y ago
I think Google as the default search engine on Safari is a big win. How is that just an excuse to hand over money? Do think that putting DuckDuckGo as default in Safari will not have any influence in either DuckDuckGo or Google market share?
- patrec 5y ago
  Right, like as without those 5B Apple would screw up its products by handing over all search to some guy with a Bing scraping Perl script cosplaying as a search engine.
yokoprime 5y ago
I'm not sure if you're shitposting or actually replying. Alphabet pays Apple to be the default search-engine in Safari. Thats it, Google are not exempt from Apples privacy policies. Google dragged their feed after the iOS 15 privacy changes, but in the end had to cave.
- Iolaum 5y ago
  Apple's privacy policies are not set in stone. They are more like pray I don't alter the deal further. ATM only Apple can stop Apple from deciding they want no tracking done by search engine providers in iOS apps.
dang 5y ago
Please stop creating accounts to post unsubstantive comments and flamebait. It destroys what this place is supposed to be for, and will eventually get your main account banned as well. If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here, we'd appreciate it.

chunkyguy 5y ago

Wasn't there a time where you could sign in to facebook at the system level? They could pay to get it back https://www.cnet.com/how-to/understanding-facebook-integration-on-ios-6/ https://www.cnet.com/how-to/understanding-facebook-integrati...

hnlmorg 5y ago

> I'm not sure that them being a search engine makes sense It really does. Want to search for a local house cleaner or children's entertainer, include Facebook pages with web results. Want to search for things to do in a particular town, include Facebook events with web results about museums and such like. This is just scratching the surface too. There are lots of possibilities here so I'd be very surprised if Facebook haven't explored this idea.