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Seems fair to me, 27% commission implies 3% for card handling fees, to level out to the same 30% developers would have to pay doing things the intended way. Al

Seems fair to me, 27% commission implies 3% for card handling fees, to level out to the same 30% developers would have to pay doing things the intended way. All this talk of using "alternative payment systems" just seems like a way to skirt around paying Apple commission.

Hamuko 5y ago
I thought that the justification for the 30% commission was the tightly integrated payment system, and not just the fact that you can install the app in the first place.
- lewisflude 5y ago
  That's definitely one aspect of it, but I've always thought most of that fee is simply for the "privilege" of being a part of the Apple ecosystem, being mostly profit for Apple with a portion going towards the hosting, distribution of the App, search/discoverability aspect. I can definitely see why this fee and it's associated lock-in upsets many consumers and developers. It's clearly a divisive issue right now, and I am unsure we'll see any resolution to the overall narrative until the EU/US forces Apples hand.
matheusmoreira 5y ago
There should be no Apple commission in the first place.
- lewisflude 5y ago
  I think the big sticking point is whether smartphones are a generic, standardised thing that requires some level of guarantees for the end consumer on accessing software of if each smartphone is one of many products in a broad category that all have different restrictions and limitations. Essentially the "you have a choice, just use Android" defence. I'm not saying which one is correct here, just that this seems to be the specific fork in the road between differing opinions.
  - matheusmoreira 5y ago
    > whether smartphones are a generic, standardised thing that requires some level of guarantees for the end consumer on accessing software I certainly believe so. Computing freedom should be guaranteed by law.

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Seems fair to me, 27% commission implies 3% for card handling fees, to level out to the same 30% developers would have to pay doing things the intended way. Al

by lewisflude 5y ago

Hamuko 5y ago
I thought that the justification for the 30% commission was the tightly integrated payment system, and not just the fact that you can install the app in the first place.
- lewisflude 5y ago
  That's definitely one aspect of it, but I've always thought most of that fee is simply for the "privilege" of being a part of the Apple ecosystem, being mostly profit for Apple with a portion going towards the hosting, distribution of the App, search/discoverability aspect. I can definitely see why this fee and it's associated lock-in upsets many consumers and developers. It's clearly a divisive issue right now, and I am unsure we'll see any resolution to the overall narrative until the EU/US forces Apples hand.
matheusmoreira 5y ago
There should be no Apple commission in the first place.
- lewisflude 5y ago
  I think the big sticking point is whether smartphones are a generic, standardised thing that requires some level of guarantees for the end consumer on accessing software of if each smartphone is one of many products in a broad category that all have different restrictions and limitations. Essentially the "you have a choice, just use Android" defence. I'm not saying which one is correct here, just that this seems to be the specific fork in the road between differing opinions.
  - matheusmoreira 5y ago
    > whether smartphones are a generic, standardised thing that requires some level of guarantees for the end consumer on accessing software I certainly believe so. Computing freedom should be guaranteed by law.