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> And the average rent is about $1100/mo. About a third of the office worker's income. Federal taxes are another 11% or so. That leaves more than half of an ave
by csa 5y ago
> And the average rent is about $1100/mo. About a third of the office worker's income. Federal taxes are another 11% or so. That leaves more than half of an average office worker's income for essentials like food, clothing and utilities.
This sounds like math done by someone who has never earned an income as low as $40k.
Some slightly more realistic numbers (rounding to nearest hundred):
Income - $40,000
Federal - $3100
State (variable, this is for CA) - $1000
Social security - $2500
Medicare - $600
Disability (again, CA) - $500
Total tax - $6700 in CA, maybe $5200 in a lower tax state
$13k annually for rent (in CA, that’s very cheap).
How much for health insurance? Probably $1k-$2k.
How much for transportation? That’s car payment/repairs, insurance, and gas in most places. This eats up a lot of disposable income for people.
Cable tv, cell phone, etc. also adds up quickly.
Oh, you better not have student loans. That will eat up more of your disposable income.
I have given some budgeting tips to people who make ~$50k working in California. At best, they can contribute the 5% for matching, but it’s tough. Things like increased gas prices, unexpected car repairs, medical issues, etc. are a huge fear and a major concern.
Sure, $40k is very livable in provincial parts of the US, but there are many many people who do not live in those areas but make that income.
Just trying to keep it real…
- apatters 5y agoYours is the best rebuttal by far, but I think your reference to "provincial" parts of the US reveals why we arrived at very different conclusions. My #1 non-negotiable for my first job after college was very contrarian at the time, less so now. I've never budged on it. This is it: "Not in California." Why? Because I like having money.
- zuminator 5y agoIf you're making $40k in a dense urban area you're probably sharing rent with someone. It's still tight but that gives you an extra $100-$200/wk in disposable income (or for necessities, as the case may be.)