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My understanding is that they were very clearly comparing the Canadian government to Nazis, not expressing support for Nazis, but at this point I'd have to see
by FooBarBizBazz 5y ago
My understanding is that they were very clearly comparing the Canadian government to Nazis, not expressing support for Nazis, but at this point I'd have to see photos to be sure.
My own image searches only turn up upside-down Canadian flags, "Fuck Trudeau" slogans, and stuff about "freedom". I'd have to think that if somebody really wanted to undermine them and had such a photo, they'd have posted it.
How bad is the reporting? I checked the NYT; https://archive.fo/Jny6X https://archive.fo/Jny6X
It's not awful in any obvious way.
It does describe the protest as "mostly peaceful". As that phrase is a little notorious, I laughed a little. Since NYT staff spend a lot of time on Twitter, I imagine they know the significance. But hey, if it was peaceful and they said so, then they've done their job ok there.
The headline does have some negative connotations: The convoy "descends on Ottowa" (not, I dunno, "protesters gather to demand justice").
And there is one sentence that is incendiary enough that it really needs more context:
"Some of them carried Canadian flags upside down; at least one flag had swastikas drawn on it."
This invites the reader to draw one conclusion, but the meaning may be something else, as in my first paragraph.
So I'd have to see to be sure. But no photos are forthcoming.
- bastardoperator 5y agoWearing a mask and mass genocide are not the same thing, they're not even in the same ballpark. If anything it weakens their entire argument. If you have any understanding of the holocaust you can in no way shape or form compare it to taking precautions during a global pandemic with a mask in public. All I see is a bunch on people that so badly want to be viewed as victims. I don't like wearing a mask either, but if me wearing a mask reduces the spread of a virus that has literally killed millions, I'll wear it, it doesn't hurt me, I'm not going to cry about it or use nazi symbolism to make a case.
- GauntletWizard 5y agoWearing and mass genocide are not the same thing, but wearing a Star of David is. That's how it started, and we know how it ends.
- bastardoperator 5y agoI'm not following you. The Jews were forced to wear the star of David as a form of humiliation. The people today wearing them are doing it by choice and it's in poor taste.
- GauntletWizard 5y agoPeople are being forced to wear masks as a form of humiliation. People are being forced to present their vaccine cards as a form of humiliation. People are choosing to wear stars of David as a comparison of the two. I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
- bastardoperator 5y agoThis is blatantly false, and the Jews didn't have a choice which is why no one takes these pretend victims seriously. If you're feeling humiliated that says more about you then it does the people that understand how simple barriers(masks) work. Thanks for the explanation, it's laughable at best.
- FooBarBizBazz 5y agoYou have to wonder if they know how absurd their comparisons are. It's weird how people want so, so badly to be in some counterculture. And to be "owed" something, in the moral accounting. That Green Day song plays in my head, with the music video: "I Want to be a Minority!" I guess we sort of have a word for this, ressentiment? It's close, but not exactly.
- GauntletWizard 5y agoJews were allowed to move around without their stars of David - in the ghettos, literally the origination of the term. Jews were not allowed to take part in wider public life without them.
- meepmorp 5y ago