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Can we possibly see ourselves as objective judges when our collective history is essentially, from this historic perspective, butchery? What blessed this gener
by chasil 5y ago
Can we possibly see ourselves as objective judges when our collective history is essentially, from this historic perspective, butchery?
What blessed this generation with a wisdom not seen before?
What, precisely?
- artificialLimbs 5y agoChange. Goddamn, are you serious standing there saying "it's cool, rape and torture them. Our country used to do it a few generations ago." Privileged asshole.
- chasil 5y agoShould we be compelled to intervene in sovereign nations? Does sovereignty still exist?
- TeeMassive 5y agoChina wouldn't exist as a free country without American interventionism in the Pacific ;)
- chasil 5y agoYou will never find what you are seeking. People do as they do. All the weeping in the world will not make it so.
- TulliusCicero 5y agoSeriously? You see reports of state-sponsored child abuse and your first instinct is, "well, who are we to judge?" I imagine the answer should be, "pretty much anyone who isn't a child abuser."
- chasil 5y agoSovereignty means many things, but one thing specifically: No other realm may decide the fate of these people. China is sovereign, and we must acknowledge that.
- girvo 5y ago> China is sovereign, and we must acknowledge that. What does that mean to you, exactly?
- chasil 5y agoWhat it really means is this. Stalin and Mao agreed in a fateful moment to take a side with the U.S. The adversaries perished. We are left to decide amongst and between ourselves what to do. In the U.S., I believe that all people are created equal. That is not the universal belief.
- ulrikrasmussen 5y agoThis is an entirely different point from the first one you proposed
- chasd00 5y agoHuman rights apply to all humans regardless of where they live.
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- thesuperbigfrog 5y ago>> No other realm may decide the fate of these people. >> China is sovereign, and we must acknowledge that. I call BS. Sovereignty is not an excuse for genocide or child abuse. Would you accept the abuses described in the NPR report if they happened to you or your children?
- VictorPath 5y ago> You see reports of state-sponsored child abuse Yaa, I heard they're locking kids up in cages, leaving them exposed to Covid. Oh no, that is what the US is doing to Mexican kids.
- cscurmudgeon 5y agoWhat blessed YOU with a wisdom not seen before?
- chasil 5y agoXCIX Ah, Fate! could you and I with Him conspire To grasp this sorry Scheme of Things entire, Would not we shatter it to bits--and then Re-mould it nearer to the Heart's Desire! We would wish for a better world. Not all the wishing in the world would make it so.
- ulrikrasmussen 5y agoWhy can't one acknowledge that their country did horrible things in the past and at the same time demand that other countries don't repeat history? You are not born with inherited sympathy for every action that your ancestors did in the past.
- chasil 5y agoNixon opened the door to China in 1972. Just imagine if free and fair trade hadn't happen in the U.S. in 1776. What would we be, in 1972? I shudder to think.
- ulrikrasmussen 5y agoI'm sorry, but I fail to see the connection of this to the question I was asking
- TeeMassive 5y agoIf you go back far enough every nation, ethnicity and ancestry did something very awful and wrong. By that logic slavery and genocide should not be judged ever and we would never evolve.