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What you've done here is arguing in bad faith. There are reasons behind why people classify something like Grinding for Levels as a dark pattern, and you've str
by beebmam 5y ago
What you've done here is arguing in bad faith. There are reasons behind why people classify something like Grinding for Levels as a dark pattern, and you've straw-manned their argument as "I personally don't like this thing". I hope that you consider editing your comment if you're willing to recognize your premise as an informal fallacy. Please engage with others on Hacker News in good faith.
- TulliusCicero 5y agoIt's not an argument in bad faith, I've been extremely straightforward with my points the entire time. The real strawman here is classifying any leveling system as a 'dark pattern' just because some clearly are. > "I personally don't like this thing". Read their comments; it's obvious that their personal preferences are constraining their viewpoint. They just repeat over and over that others must not be getting any true enjoyment out of levels. Some people are comfortably stubborn when it comes to understanding the perspective of others: > The mechanic of levelling up or gathering experience points and so on are proxies for a sense of progress, not actual progress. They don't get you anything but the satisfaction of getting it. Textbook pointlessness. It's clear as an open blue sky: they don't see the value in it, therefore it must have no real value.
- brnt 5y ago> It's clear as an open blue sky: they don't see the value in it, therefore it must have no real value. This is not my viewpoint, nor the point I'm making here. You insist on straw-manning.
- TulliusCicero 5y agoOthers insist they see value in it personally, but that doesn’t stop you from calling it “textbook pointlessness”. It’s not a strawman, it’s your actual viewpoint. You just don’t like it being out in the open.