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To those who say that if I don't sideload then this change won't affect me, I don't think this is true. Just because there aren't many alternative app stores on

To those who say that if I don't sideload then this change won't affect me, I don't think this is true. Just because there aren't many alternative app stores on Android doesn't mean it won't happen on iOS. Developers will do this if there is a financial incentive. This is a forced fragmentation of the App store and will do absolutely nothing to improve the experience of a normal, non-HN-reading end user. This will in fact weaken the security for a normal user because they now can be tricked into installing malware without jailbreaking their phones.

bobthepanda 5y ago
Not looking forward to when Verizon, AT&T, and T-mobile all decide to make app stores of their own and put them front and center. Their first attempts pre-iPhone were very shoddy.
- Apocryphon 5y ago
  Apple disrupted the whole game and put carriers on the defensive. It is highly unlikely that the carriers could try to create their own app stores to funnel iOS users towards them. Unlike with Android, neither they nor the OEMs have the ability to customize the operating system. Nor would users care to install a bunch of bloatware apps on some shoddy telecom's third party app store.
  - syspec 5y ago
    The same carriers that hijack DNS, to show you adds when you make a typo on a URL? Or the same carriers that managed to show you an add when you're on WiFi that you pay for, on your own computer?
    - Apocryphon 5y ago
      It takes a lot less effort to do both of those things, than it is to build a third-party app store and to entice users to join. They may attempt to, but it would be difficult. It’s a lot easier to show ads than it is to get users to use those crappy carrier or OEM bundled bloatware apps. Even Apple has had to allow app hiding or deletion of its first party apps in recent updates, because a lot of users don’t use a lot of them and find them to be clutter.
arvinsim 5y ago
> Just because there aren't many alternative app stores on Android doesn't mean it won't happen on iOS. This is all just conjecture. You don't have proof that it will happen to iOS.
- simondotau 5y ago
  If it doesn’t then what would have been the point?
mdoms 5y ago
That's right, increased competition will drive down the prices that Apple can charge. I don't think your argument is the slam dunk you think it is.
colinmhayes 5y ago
> will do absolutely nothing to improve the experience of a normal user Developers will lower prices and/or spend more on development when costs decrease.
Gareth321 5y ago
>will do absolutely nothing to improve the experience of a normal, non-HN-reading end user. I look forward to: * Torrent apps. * xCloud (Game Pass game streaming app). * Emulators. * Adult themed apps. * The Steam store. * All the millions of apps which are blocked for any and no reason at all, since the approval process is arbitrary and broken at best.

bobthepanda 5y ago

Not looking forward to when Verizon, AT&T, and T-mobile all decide to make app stores of their own and put them front and center. Their first attempts pre-iPhone were very shoddy.

Apocryphon 5y ago
Apple disrupted the whole game and put carriers on the defensive. It is highly unlikely that the carriers could try to create their own app stores to funnel iOS users towards them. Unlike with Android, neither they nor the OEMs have the ability to customize the operating system. Nor would users care to install a bunch of bloatware apps on some shoddy telecom's third party app store.
- syspec 5y ago
  The same carriers that hijack DNS, to show you adds when you make a typo on a URL? Or the same carriers that managed to show you an add when you're on WiFi that you pay for, on your own computer?
  - Apocryphon 5y ago
    It takes a lot less effort to do both of those things, than it is to build a third-party app store and to entice users to join. They may attempt to, but it would be difficult. It’s a lot easier to show ads than it is to get users to use those crappy carrier or OEM bundled bloatware apps. Even Apple has had to allow app hiding or deletion of its first party apps in recent updates, because a lot of users don’t use a lot of them and find them to be clutter.

arvinsim 5y ago

> Just because there aren't many alternative app stores on Android doesn't mean it won't happen on iOS. This is all just conjecture. You don't have proof that it will happen to iOS.

simondotau 5y ago
If it doesn’t then what would have been the point?

mdoms 5y ago

That's right, increased competition will drive down the prices that Apple can charge. I don't think your argument is the slam dunk you think it is.

colinmhayes 5y ago

> will do absolutely nothing to improve the experience of a normal user Developers will lower prices and/or spend more on development when costs decrease.

Gareth321 5y ago

>will do absolutely nothing to improve the experience of a normal, non-HN-reading end user. I look forward to: * Torrent apps. * xCloud (Game Pass game streaming app). * Emulators. * Adult themed apps. * The Steam store. * All the millions of apps which are blocked for any and no reason at all, since the approval process is arbitrary and broken at best.