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No, I tried to make my comment thoughtful and hoped someone would want to engage with it so maybe we could learn something.

BizarroLand 5y ago
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- _-david-_ 5y ago
  What if you don't see the swastika? Should you be branded a Nazi? What happens if there is a good cause that you support and a random person comes with a Nazi flag? Should all the people leave? Protesting would effectively never be able to happen.
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      There was a video of them kicking out some dude with a confederate flag. I’ve only seen the Nazi flag in a couple pictures and seemed like it was never in the middle of the rally. Source: https://thepostmillennial.com/canadian-trucker-convoy-confront-masked-man-confederate-flag https://thepostmillennial.com/canadian-trucker-convoy-confro... If you’re trying to discredit a group of people it’s pretty low hanging fruit to send people in with a Nazi flag for great photo ops to show the masses.
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        mrhands556 5y ago
        I haven’t seen any Nazi flags in the crowd but I haven’t been following it closely.
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        Would you please stop posting ideological flamewar comments to HN? They're tedious, repetitive, and not at all what this site is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - hajile 5y ago
      The ACLU rather famously defended the nazi rights to free speech. Are they evil? The paradox of tolerance is just an excuse to oppress the people you disagree with. Actual nazis are a minute fraction of the population. People see the idiocy and point it out. Meanwhile, Communism has killed a couple hundred million people (vs 6 million for the nazis) and you can see tons of communist flags at any of the recent left-leaning protests. The tolerance paradox doesn’t get even the thought of a mention when this happens. It’s just a tool of ideologically driven sophists.
    - SaiUEF9U6gDXHyW 5y ago
      are you going to keep that same energy next time some dude walks in with a nazi flag at every single protest you care about?
      - BizarroLand 5y ago
        Yeah. It's easy to kick Nazi's out of the groups I join, because so far no group I've ever been a part of has been attractive to Nazis. I would wager that's the case for most people.
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        _-david-_ 5y ago
        What happens if a non-nazi goes to an event and flies a Nazi flag to cause people to think you are a nazi
    - lupire 5y ago
      How do you eject someone from a protest? There is no ticket gate.
      - SuoDuanDao 5y ago
        The accepted way is to point and chant "Fed!" until the person leaves on their own.
  - bryanlarsen 5y ago
    It's not "random people". The convoy has white supremacists in leadership positions.
    - SaiUEF9U6gDXHyW 5y ago
      - bryanlarsen 5y ago
        Justin LaFace, the Ontario leader, is a member of Soldiers of Odin. Alex King, one of the cofounders: https://twitter.com/VestsCanada/status/1159997274900041729 https://twitter.com/VestsCanada/status/1159997274900041729
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        pvg 5y ago
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Replacement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Replacement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_genocide_conspiracy_theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_genocide_conspiracy_theo...
        _-david-_ 5y ago
        Joe Biden literally said he wants immigration to replace whites and it is a good thing that the percentage of whites is shrinking. https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4872045/user-clip-joe-biden-admits-great-replacement-real https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4872045/user-clip-joe-biden-a...
        pvg 5y ago
        It's a racist conspiracy theory and a common bad faith white nationalist talking point. It doesn't matter who says it, you should not bring it up as messageboard scorekeeping.

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braunjohnson 5y ago
_-david-_ 5y ago
What if you don't see the swastika? Should you be branded a Nazi? What happens if there is a good cause that you support and a random person comes with a Nazi flag? Should all the people leave? Protesting would effectively never be able to happen.
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    There was a video of them kicking out some dude with a confederate flag. I’ve only seen the Nazi flag in a couple pictures and seemed like it was never in the middle of the rally. Source: https://thepostmillennial.com/canadian-trucker-convoy-confront-masked-man-confederate-flag https://thepostmillennial.com/canadian-trucker-convoy-confro... If you’re trying to discredit a group of people it’s pretty low hanging fruit to send people in with a Nazi flag for great photo ops to show the masses.
    - BizarroLand 5y ago
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        I haven’t seen any Nazi flags in the crowd but I haven’t been following it closely.
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        Would you please stop posting ideological flamewar comments to HN? They're tedious, repetitive, and not at all what this site is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - hajile 5y ago
    The ACLU rather famously defended the nazi rights to free speech. Are they evil? The paradox of tolerance is just an excuse to oppress the people you disagree with. Actual nazis are a minute fraction of the population. People see the idiocy and point it out. Meanwhile, Communism has killed a couple hundred million people (vs 6 million for the nazis) and you can see tons of communist flags at any of the recent left-leaning protests. The tolerance paradox doesn’t get even the thought of a mention when this happens. It’s just a tool of ideologically driven sophists.
  - SaiUEF9U6gDXHyW 5y ago
    are you going to keep that same energy next time some dude walks in with a nazi flag at every single protest you care about?
    - BizarroLand 5y ago
      Yeah. It's easy to kick Nazi's out of the groups I join, because so far no group I've ever been a part of has been attractive to Nazis. I would wager that's the case for most people.
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      - _-david-_ 5y ago
        What happens if a non-nazi goes to an event and flies a Nazi flag to cause people to think you are a nazi
  - lupire 5y ago
    How do you eject someone from a protest? There is no ticket gate.
    - SuoDuanDao 5y ago
      The accepted way is to point and chant "Fed!" until the person leaves on their own.
- bryanlarsen 5y ago
  It's not "random people". The convoy has white supremacists in leadership positions.
  - SaiUEF9U6gDXHyW 5y ago
    - bryanlarsen 5y ago
      Justin LaFace, the Ontario leader, is a member of Soldiers of Odin. Alex King, one of the cofounders: https://twitter.com/VestsCanada/status/1159997274900041729 https://twitter.com/VestsCanada/status/1159997274900041729
      - _-david-_ 5y ago
        pvg 5y ago
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Replacement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Replacement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_genocide_conspiracy_theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_genocide_conspiracy_theo...
        _-david-_ 5y ago
        Joe Biden literally said he wants immigration to replace whites and it is a good thing that the percentage of whites is shrinking. https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4872045/user-clip-joe-biden-admits-great-replacement-real https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4872045/user-clip-joe-biden-a...
        pvg 5y ago
        It's a racist conspiracy theory and a common bad faith white nationalist talking point. It doesn't matter who says it, you should not bring it up as messageboard scorekeeping.