> Curious question, what about if you use some of these "dark" approaches for something good? All of these "dark patterns" are just tools and psychological man

> Curious question, what about if you use some of these "dark" approaches for something good? All of these "dark patterns" are just tools and psychological manipulations. They're used for all kinds of positive outcomes. Gamification lets us use them to help with learning, or our todo lists, or to kick a bad habit or as part of therapy. It's not that these techniques themselves are always evil, but the potential for abuse exists and when they're used in games, it's often to keep players addicted or spending money.