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If stop signs and traffic lights work so dann well why am I being forced to wear a seat belt? If I require a seatbelt even after taking a drivers licence exam,

If stop signs and traffic lights work so dann well why am I being forced to wear a seat belt? If I require a seatbelt even after taking a drivers licence exam, maybe following traffic rules isn’t really an effective policy? One would think that on this forum of all places, people would understand the concept of defence-in-depth. Furrfu…

spookthesunset 5y ago
Vaccines are both the seat belt and the airbags. Masks? Those aren’t even close. They are more like rain dances or amulets. Besides why does the government get to decide if a vaccinated person has to wear a mask? Makes no sense. You can add as many layers of defense as you want. Don’t force me to. I’m boosted. I could care less about Covid. If I still have to wear a mask post shot, why the hell did I even bother?
- Spivak 5y ago
  > Masks? Those aren’t even close. They're to reduce transmission to others. You can call them not good enough but it's a respiratory disease, it's what we've got. The alternative is lockdowns. > Besides why does the government get to decide if a vaccinated person has to wear a mask? Why do they get to decide if an unvaccinated person has to wear a mask? You're simultaneously arguing that vaccines are effective and so masks are pointless but also that vaccines are ineffective. Which is it? > Don’t force me to. I’m boosted. I could care less about Covid. It's not about you. If the only risk was only to yourself then nobody would care. > If I still have to wear a mask post shot, why the hell did I even bother? Because if you get covid you'll have a mild flu instead of being hospitalized or die? You can say it's low chance but 3,000 corpses today I guess were unlucky.
  - spookthesunset 5y ago
    I would have gotten mild Covid. I have no real need to get the vaccine at all. Only reason I got the vaccine was I had no reason not to. I really don’t care about Covid at all. It isn’t a risk I focus on. Never had been. I’m way more concerned about what this hysteria has done to society and our communities. Others can get a vaccine too if it truly helps them or they just want piece of mind. We all have the choice. Transmission no longer matters. It isn’t a problem each individual needs to worry about. It’s not ethical or moral to keep pushing this as the only concern society can focus on. We need to move on. And you can use scare words like “3000 corpses a day” but that is propaganda and fearmongering. The more scary the wording, the less the words mean to me. Way more than 3000 people die a day. And people die of many things all the time. Death is one of the only things that will happen to us 100%. Life is way to short to piss away on this. You are free to continue hunkering down in fear. But kindly stop forcing others to cater to your fear. It is quite selfish to ask that, especially given you can get a freely available, highly effective vaccine. Get your vaccine and move on. Covid ends for you when you stop being afraid of it. It’s actually that simple.
    - Spivak 5y ago
      > And you can use scare words like “3000 corpses a day” but that is propaganda. You're confusing emotionally charged, high-impact words with propaganda. Having a policy of talking about the dead in a sterile detached way is also a rhetoric choice that affects perception and is just as much "propaganda" by your own standard. What you're calling "propaganda" is "using words that make something sound more serious than I think it is" or "using words to make something sound less serious than I think it is." > Only reason I got the vaccine was I had no reason not to. That's the reason I wear a mask. > You are free to continue hunkering down in fear. But kindly stop forcing others to cater to your fear. The only thing that's being asked of anyone is to get vaccinated, wear a mask indoors, and stay home if you're sick. The first two cost you nothing and you should be staying home with any illness anyway. > Get your vaccine and move on. I have moved on, except for wearing a mask when in close contact and having to show proof of it for large events, life has literally gone back to normal.
refurb 5y ago
We never had the nation’s top scientist say “if you wear a seatbelt you’ll never get into accident”

spookthesunset 5y ago

Vaccines are both the seat belt and the airbags. Masks? Those aren’t even close. They are more like rain dances or amulets. Besides why does the government get to decide if a vaccinated person has to wear a mask? Makes no sense. You can add as many layers of defense as you want. Don’t force me to. I’m boosted. I could care less about Covid. If I still have to wear a mask post shot, why the hell did I even bother?

Spivak 5y ago
> Masks? Those aren’t even close. They're to reduce transmission to others. You can call them not good enough but it's a respiratory disease, it's what we've got. The alternative is lockdowns. > Besides why does the government get to decide if a vaccinated person has to wear a mask? Why do they get to decide if an unvaccinated person has to wear a mask? You're simultaneously arguing that vaccines are effective and so masks are pointless but also that vaccines are ineffective. Which is it? > Don’t force me to. I’m boosted. I could care less about Covid. It's not about you. If the only risk was only to yourself then nobody would care. > If I still have to wear a mask post shot, why the hell did I even bother? Because if you get covid you'll have a mild flu instead of being hospitalized or die? You can say it's low chance but 3,000 corpses today I guess were unlucky.
- spookthesunset 5y ago
  I would have gotten mild Covid. I have no real need to get the vaccine at all. Only reason I got the vaccine was I had no reason not to. I really don’t care about Covid at all. It isn’t a risk I focus on. Never had been. I’m way more concerned about what this hysteria has done to society and our communities. Others can get a vaccine too if it truly helps them or they just want piece of mind. We all have the choice. Transmission no longer matters. It isn’t a problem each individual needs to worry about. It’s not ethical or moral to keep pushing this as the only concern society can focus on. We need to move on. And you can use scare words like “3000 corpses a day” but that is propaganda and fearmongering. The more scary the wording, the less the words mean to me. Way more than 3000 people die a day. And people die of many things all the time. Death is one of the only things that will happen to us 100%. Life is way to short to piss away on this. You are free to continue hunkering down in fear. But kindly stop forcing others to cater to your fear. It is quite selfish to ask that, especially given you can get a freely available, highly effective vaccine. Get your vaccine and move on. Covid ends for you when you stop being afraid of it. It’s actually that simple.
  - Spivak 5y ago
    > And you can use scare words like “3000 corpses a day” but that is propaganda. You're confusing emotionally charged, high-impact words with propaganda. Having a policy of talking about the dead in a sterile detached way is also a rhetoric choice that affects perception and is just as much "propaganda" by your own standard. What you're calling "propaganda" is "using words that make something sound more serious than I think it is" or "using words to make something sound less serious than I think it is." > Only reason I got the vaccine was I had no reason not to. That's the reason I wear a mask. > You are free to continue hunkering down in fear. But kindly stop forcing others to cater to your fear. The only thing that's being asked of anyone is to get vaccinated, wear a mask indoors, and stay home if you're sick. The first two cost you nothing and you should be staying home with any illness anyway. > Get your vaccine and move on. I have moved on, except for wearing a mask when in close contact and having to show proof of it for large events, life has literally gone back to normal.

refurb 5y ago

We never had the nation’s top scientist say “if you wear a seatbelt you’ll never get into accident”