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> Somehow there's this idea that the Sars-CoV-2 vaccines need to prevent infection or symptomatic disease There's a laundry list of public health officials (in

by toolz 5y ago

> Somehow there's this idea that the Sars-CoV-2 vaccines need to prevent infection or symptomatic disease There's a laundry list of public health officials (including the CDC director, to give a sense of the authority on this list) that said it would prevent infection and transmission. So it really shouldn't surprise anyone that there were expectations that the vaccine would do what public health authorities said it would do.

thatguy0900 5y ago
It's kind of funny how fast people forget what was originally talked about when the goalposts moved.
- toolz 5y ago
  Yep, I find it quite reprehensible how quickly politicians (the ones in public health and elected leaders) pivoted from "the vaccine will end the pandemic" into "this is the un-vaccinated peoples fault". I guess politically they had to throw the minority group under the buss to keep the attention off of their own failures. It worked though, I have had people tell me I'm disgusting more than once for not being vaccinated. Nevermind that I've had covid twice, am young and in very good health, have been taking vitamin A/D since 2020 and have high levels of sufficiency of both. It appears I'm the bad guy because I would rather a 75 year old in a poor country have my doses of vaccines than take it just because I'm being pressured into it. I'm not sure many liberals survived this pandemic, at least not vocally. I feel truly bad for any minorities that really shouldn't take the vaccine for medical conditions. I know for a fact there are doctors who have recommended against taking the vaccine because of preexisting conditions but wouldn't write a doctors note for fear of losing their license. I'm actually missing out on a vacation in Cali right now with the partners family because I'm afraid I'll get a positive PCR test and ruin it for them (since they require tests or vaccine cards most places, as I understand it)
  - clairity 5y ago
    > "I'm afraid I'll get a positive PCR test and ruin it for them (since they require tests or vaccine cards most places, as I understand it)" CA is batshit crazy over covid for mediopolitical reasons, but at least here in LA, you can easily flash anything in front of most restaurant/retail workers and they won't even read it if it looks even halfway legit (there's too much variation in vaccine cards and test results for them to be experts anyway). some places, like disneyland, will be a little more diligent though. so while folks still wear masks outdoors like cargo culters, most people don't care enough to do more than go through the motions.
throwaway48375 5y ago
>And we have -- we can kind of almost see the end. We`re vaccinating so very fast, our data from the CDC today suggests, you know, that vaccinated people do not carry the virus, don't get sick, and that it's not just in the clinical trials but it's also in real world data. --Rochelle Walensky, Director CDC

by toolz 5y ago

thatguy0900 5y ago

It's kind of funny how fast people forget what was originally talked about when the goalposts moved.

toolz 5y ago
Yep, I find it quite reprehensible how quickly politicians (the ones in public health and elected leaders) pivoted from "the vaccine will end the pandemic" into "this is the un-vaccinated peoples fault". I guess politically they had to throw the minority group under the buss to keep the attention off of their own failures. It worked though, I have had people tell me I'm disgusting more than once for not being vaccinated. Nevermind that I've had covid twice, am young and in very good health, have been taking vitamin A/D since 2020 and have high levels of sufficiency of both. It appears I'm the bad guy because I would rather a 75 year old in a poor country have my doses of vaccines than take it just because I'm being pressured into it. I'm not sure many liberals survived this pandemic, at least not vocally. I feel truly bad for any minorities that really shouldn't take the vaccine for medical conditions. I know for a fact there are doctors who have recommended against taking the vaccine because of preexisting conditions but wouldn't write a doctors note for fear of losing their license. I'm actually missing out on a vacation in Cali right now with the partners family because I'm afraid I'll get a positive PCR test and ruin it for them (since they require tests or vaccine cards most places, as I understand it)
- clairity 5y ago
  > "I'm afraid I'll get a positive PCR test and ruin it for them (since they require tests or vaccine cards most places, as I understand it)" CA is batshit crazy over covid for mediopolitical reasons, but at least here in LA, you can easily flash anything in front of most restaurant/retail workers and they won't even read it if it looks even halfway legit (there's too much variation in vaccine cards and test results for them to be experts anyway). some places, like disneyland, will be a little more diligent though. so while folks still wear masks outdoors like cargo culters, most people don't care enough to do more than go through the motions.

throwaway48375 5y ago

>And we have -- we can kind of almost see the end. We`re vaccinating so very fast, our data from the CDC today suggests, you know, that vaccinated people do not carry the virus, don't get sick, and that it's not just in the clinical trials but it's also in real world data. --Rochelle Walensky, Director CDC