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I've been doing 4×8 for years now. My wife works the same days, son goes to kindergarten¹. That leaves Friday through Sunday for household chores and relaxation

I've been doing 4×8 for years now. My wife works the same days, son goes to kindergarten¹. That leaves Friday through Sunday for household chores and relaxation. I wouldn't want to work more hours or days even if paid double. 1: Kindergarten is a huge benefit to his development, and he loves it. More and more countries are making kindergarten available to not just working parents but all (the Netherlands is going in that direction too). It's hard to overstate how beneficial that is for both (working) parents and child alike.

theStonksRDown 5y ago
Do you have sources to back up [1]. I'm interested in learning more.
- aequitas 5y ago
  I've read about this a while back, sorry I only have a Dutch source[0]. Overall preschool daycare (even just a nanny) does have a positive effect on cognitive and social development, though preschool education does not add much benefit on top of that. From personal experience, my kids also love to go there, as they do all kinds of fun activities and can play with their friends more freely outside of the school context (even though it's in the same building). And I think it's important for them to socialise with other kids as that is harder to create those situations naturally when you live a little remote as we do. [0] https://www.nro.nl/onderzoeksprojecten/effecten-van-voor-en-vroegschoolse-educatie-en-opvang-op-latere-ontwikkeling https://www.nro.nl/onderzoeksprojecten/effecten-van-voor-en-...
  - Freak_NL 5y ago
    Also, ask any primary school teacher about the difference between children who went to kindergarten and those who didn't. It's not about education, but about socialization and emotional skills, as well as basic stuff like continence (toddlers tend to follow the examples set by older children in the kindergarten).
plorkyeran 5y ago
Where is kindergarten only available to working parents? That isn't something I've ever heard of before.
- Freak_NL 5y ago
  In the Netherlands it is available to all but only (heavily) subsidized for parents who work (both, unless you are in a one-parent household), are in education or vocational training, or are following an integration course for immigrants. If you are (long term) jobless you generally can't afford it, but that is changing, and the subsidy will probably apply to all parents in the future.

theStonksRDown 5y ago

Do you have sources to back up [1]. I'm interested in learning more.

aequitas 5y ago
I've read about this a while back, sorry I only have a Dutch source[0]. Overall preschool daycare (even just a nanny) does have a positive effect on cognitive and social development, though preschool education does not add much benefit on top of that. From personal experience, my kids also love to go there, as they do all kinds of fun activities and can play with their friends more freely outside of the school context (even though it's in the same building). And I think it's important for them to socialise with other kids as that is harder to create those situations naturally when you live a little remote as we do. [0] https://www.nro.nl/onderzoeksprojecten/effecten-van-voor-en-vroegschoolse-educatie-en-opvang-op-latere-ontwikkeling https://www.nro.nl/onderzoeksprojecten/effecten-van-voor-en-...
- Freak_NL 5y ago
  Also, ask any primary school teacher about the difference between children who went to kindergarten and those who didn't. It's not about education, but about socialization and emotional skills, as well as basic stuff like continence (toddlers tend to follow the examples set by older children in the kindergarten).

plorkyeran 5y ago

Where is kindergarten only available to working parents? That isn't something I've ever heard of before.

Freak_NL 5y ago
In the Netherlands it is available to all but only (heavily) subsidized for parents who work (both, unless you are in a one-parent household), are in education or vocational training, or are following an integration course for immigrants. If you are (long term) jobless you generally can't afford it, but that is changing, and the subsidy will probably apply to all parents in the future.