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> It really blows my mind that the US makes it so hard to get in legally and stay. Huh, why it blows your mind? Is it some kind of human right that anyone can

by geodel 5y ago

> It really blows my mind that the US makes it so hard to get in legally and stay. Huh, why it blows your mind? Is it some kind of human right that anyone can come to US at any point in time and just start living there. Besides if they are so talented why they can't stay in home country and apply the talent.

kingcharles 5y ago
No, but if I'm running a country and talented people want to move to my country and bring their skills, then I would want to open my borders to them. That way my country will theoretically be better off than other countries.
valarauko 5y ago
I would think that a significant proportion of native born American households (including most politicians) have at least one immigrant grandparent, and the conditions that led to them leaving their native home. You would think that a people who are well acquainted with their own relatively recent roots in the country would be more open to the idea in general.
- hunterb123 5y ago
  Noone's not open to it. Everyone is open to legal immigration. We'd have more resources available if there was less illegal immigration. Everyone wants reform. More border security, less visa lotteries. Visas on merit.
  - omegaworks 5y ago
    >We'd have more resources available if there was less illegal immigration. Wrong. The resources are under the control of the capital elite. They can decide at any time to allocate them to suit socially useful purposes, horde them or gamble them on the latest NFT fad. Immigrants have no control over resource allocation.
    - hunterb123 5y ago
atleta 5y ago
Well, the response to your comment was right there in the second sentence you, for some reason, failed to quote: "The US is turning away so many talented individuals that could vastly add to the nation in many different ways."

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> It really blows my mind that the US makes it so hard to get in legally and stay. Huh, why it blows your mind? Is it some kind of human right that anyone can

by geodel 5y ago

kingcharles 5y ago
No, but if I'm running a country and talented people want to move to my country and bring their skills, then I would want to open my borders to them. That way my country will theoretically be better off than other countries.
valarauko 5y ago
I would think that a significant proportion of native born American households (including most politicians) have at least one immigrant grandparent, and the conditions that led to them leaving their native home. You would think that a people who are well acquainted with their own relatively recent roots in the country would be more open to the idea in general.
- hunterb123 5y ago
  Noone's not open to it. Everyone is open to legal immigration. We'd have more resources available if there was less illegal immigration. Everyone wants reform. More border security, less visa lotteries. Visas on merit.
  - omegaworks 5y ago
    >We'd have more resources available if there was less illegal immigration. Wrong. The resources are under the control of the capital elite. They can decide at any time to allocate them to suit socially useful purposes, horde them or gamble them on the latest NFT fad. Immigrants have no control over resource allocation.
    - hunterb123 5y ago
atleta 5y ago
Well, the response to your comment was right there in the second sentence you, for some reason, failed to quote: "The US is turning away so many talented individuals that could vastly add to the nation in many different ways."