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the flu kills ~36K/year, so if you're ~22+ year old american, then the influenza virus has killed more people in your lifetime than covid. we don't know yet wh

the flu kills ~36K/year, so if you're ~22+ year old american, then the influenza virus has killed more people in your lifetime than covid. we don't know yet what steady-state looks like, but note that medical/epidemiological organizations don't generally keep death statistics on colds (caused by rhinoviruses, coronaviruses, etc.) because they're not a significant number. colds can be a contributing factor in death for folks with deficient immune systems, just as it is with covid, but is generally not the sole cause. again, >99% survive covid just fine. for people with multiple co-morbidities, it's much more serious (whole percentage death rates), but that's because they're teetering on the brink already, and covid (or any number of respiratory diseases, really) can push them over the edge. our mitigations should focus on the aged and unhealthy, not everyone (especially not children).

wolverine876 5y ago
> >99% survive covid just fine That's not a good survival rate, though the number sounds big. > it's much more serious (whole percentage death rates), but that's because they're teetering on the brink already, and covid (or any number of respiratory diseases, really) can push them over the edge. our mitigations should focus on the aged and unhealthy, not everyone (especially not children). The people at risk are not nearly all "teetering on the brink", nor have they died at this astounding rate from other causes. We could save their lives. People are dying; and we can save them, and we could have saved many more. Blood is on the hands of the those who stood in the way.
- clairity 5y ago
  99+% is a big number no matter how you try to slice it. people on the brink should assess and mitigate their own risk, with reliable, honest information and help where needed, not paternalistic overreach. people are dying, full stop, every single day, day in and day out. why weren't you so concerned about the millions who have been dying all along? why weren't you sounding the alarm like this about the flu that has killed more people in your lifetime than covid (which likely always will be the case)? let go of the mediopolitical propaganda and move on.

wolverine876 5y ago

> >99% survive covid just fine That's not a good survival rate, though the number sounds big. > it's much more serious (whole percentage death rates), but that's because they're teetering on the brink already, and covid (or any number of respiratory diseases, really) can push them over the edge. our mitigations should focus on the aged and unhealthy, not everyone (especially not children). The people at risk are not nearly all "teetering on the brink", nor have they died at this astounding rate from other causes. We could save their lives. People are dying; and we can save them, and we could have saved many more. Blood is on the hands of the those who stood in the way.

clairity 5y ago
99+% is a big number no matter how you try to slice it. people on the brink should assess and mitigate their own risk, with reliable, honest information and help where needed, not paternalistic overreach. people are dying, full stop, every single day, day in and day out. why weren't you so concerned about the millions who have been dying all along? why weren't you sounding the alarm like this about the flu that has killed more people in your lifetime than covid (which likely always will be the case)? let go of the mediopolitical propaganda and move on.