also worth stating that Israel has compulsory military service, so a huge number of computer geeks, like you and me, will get into this service for the mandated

also worth stating that Israel has compulsory military service, so a huge number of computer geeks, like you and me, will get into this service for the mandated time rather than the more physical and distasteful alternatives. It's (i imagine) like an enforced first year MIT cyber security course for the majority of people in that service. In summary, the label of belonging to them means not that much in reality - rather one should look at length of service, age of entry and any subsequent / previous activities when they leave. (basically like any other cybersecurity job, really)