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Tile didn't work well enough for stalking. I bought some Tiles and Trackrs and gave them to friends who agreed to help me test their usefulness, pretending tha

Tile didn't work well enough for stalking. I bought some Tiles and Trackrs and gave them to friends who agreed to help me test their usefulness, pretending that they had "stolen" these items from me. I would see if I could locate them a few days later when I "noticed them missing". I got one ping from a Tile once when the friend had apparently stopped for gas, but none from their house. And zero at all from the Trackr. Apparently there just aren't enough users in my area for the networks to accomplish much? By stealing battery from every iphone user and data from their cellular plan, Apple has built a find-me network that actually works. Therefore it also works for stalking. Therefore Apple is getting the criticism.

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riversflow 5y ago
> Apple has built a find-me network that actually works. Therefore it also works for stalking. Therefore Apple is getting the criticism. Isn’t this criticism a bit like arguing that binoculars/telescopes are bad because they allow people to peep into other peoples windows or cars deserve criticism because they allow you to tail someone(or run from authorities)? Tools can basically always be misused.
- austhrow743 5y ago
  Yes it is exactly like that.
- taneq 5y ago
  More like the criticism that tiny cameras DO get because they're used for stalking / creepshots.
- resoluteteeth 5y ago
  It would be like criticizing a company for making a new type of telescope that is massively easier to use to spy on people
GekkePrutser 5y ago
Same here, I tried bringing a 'lost' tile with me on the Barcelona subway. It took a month for one ping (it was paired with a smartphone I left at home with the Bluetooth off) Also tiles don't rotate their BT address so they're an ideal method for shops to track you. Apple's method actually works because it doesn't need an app installed and they have mitigated the third party tracking problem.

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riversflow 5y ago

> Apple has built a find-me network that actually works. Therefore it also works for stalking. Therefore Apple is getting the criticism. Isn’t this criticism a bit like arguing that binoculars/telescopes are bad because they allow people to peep into other peoples windows or cars deserve criticism because they allow you to tail someone(or run from authorities)? Tools can basically always be misused.

austhrow743 5y ago
Yes it is exactly like that.
taneq 5y ago
More like the criticism that tiny cameras DO get because they're used for stalking / creepshots.
resoluteteeth 5y ago
It would be like criticizing a company for making a new type of telescope that is massively easier to use to spy on people

GekkePrutser 5y ago

Same here, I tried bringing a 'lost' tile with me on the Barcelona subway. It took a month for one ping (it was paired with a smartphone I left at home with the Bluetooth off) Also tiles don't rotate their BT address so they're an ideal method for shops to track you. Apple's method actually works because it doesn't need an app installed and they have mitigated the third party tracking problem.