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I really enjoyed using Symfony for a lot of years. The frameworks around before, Zend & CodeIgniter, were flawed in my opinion and Symfony was a breath of fres

I really enjoyed using Symfony for a lot of years. The frameworks around before, Zend & CodeIgniter, were flawed in my opinion and Symfony was a breath of fresh air. More recently though, it feels like Laravel is doing a better job at letting people just get on with building a website.

steve_adams_86 5y ago
Personally I think Symfony (and digging around its source) helped me become a far better software developer. It wasn't perfect, but it was awesome at the time. I built some really cool applications with it early on. Over ten years ago now! No doubt about it though, some very talented people contributed to that project and I imagine they still do. Symfony was one of the lights in the dark if you ask me; PHP could be a very ugly thing at the time, but it proved that you could do great things with it by applying good practices and being diligent about reviewing and improving designs. One of the things that blew me away (I was pretty green at the time) was when they made all of Symfony modular, and other frameworks began consuming their components. The portability of all of it was so impressing and inspiring to me back then. Anyway, plenty of ways to criticize PHP and Symfony, but I think they did a stellar job. I built my career on that stuff. I haven't actually looked at it in quite a while, though.
EGreg 5y ago
I would love for you to try this one and hear your feedback: https://github.com/Qbix/Platform https://github.com/Qbix/Platform It takes the best ideas from CodeIgniter, Symfony, Kohana, Drupal and Doctrine…
mtberatwork 5y ago
To be fair, Zend and CodeIgniter had to juggle operating between PHP4/5 at the same time. The object model in PHP4 was mostly incomplete and just syntactic sugar. It also did some oddball things like flip-flop pass-by-value/reference.
- kabes 5y ago
  I remember Zend also heavily relied on Singletons, which brought all kind of limitations
- jonwinstanley 5y ago
  Ahh yes. PHP 4 support was a big thing for CodeIgniter.

steve_adams_86 5y ago

Personally I think Symfony (and digging around its source) helped me become a far better software developer. It wasn't perfect, but it was awesome at the time. I built some really cool applications with it early on. Over ten years ago now! No doubt about it though, some very talented people contributed to that project and I imagine they still do. Symfony was one of the lights in the dark if you ask me; PHP could be a very ugly thing at the time, but it proved that you could do great things with it by applying good practices and being diligent about reviewing and improving designs. One of the things that blew me away (I was pretty green at the time) was when they made all of Symfony modular, and other frameworks began consuming their components. The portability of all of it was so impressing and inspiring to me back then. Anyway, plenty of ways to criticize PHP and Symfony, but I think they did a stellar job. I built my career on that stuff. I haven't actually looked at it in quite a while, though.

EGreg 5y ago

I would love for you to try this one and hear your feedback: https://github.com/Qbix/Platform https://github.com/Qbix/Platform It takes the best ideas from CodeIgniter, Symfony, Kohana, Drupal and Doctrine…

mtberatwork 5y ago

To be fair, Zend and CodeIgniter had to juggle operating between PHP4/5 at the same time. The object model in PHP4 was mostly incomplete and just syntactic sugar. It also did some oddball things like flip-flop pass-by-value/reference.

kabes 5y ago
I remember Zend also heavily relied on Singletons, which brought all kind of limitations
jonwinstanley 5y ago
Ahh yes. PHP 4 support was a big thing for CodeIgniter.