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Android already has side loading, and Epic tried and failed to get a third party store going. I highly doubt this bill will do anything unless it mandates that

Android already has side loading, and Epic tried and failed to get a third party store going. I highly doubt this bill will do anything unless it mandates that Google can't mandate Google Play Store as a condition of receiving development support.

scarface74 5y ago
Epic also perfectly demonstrated the security issues involved. https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/just-as-critics-feared-fortnite-for-android-came-with-an-epic-security-risk/ https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/just-as-critics-feared-fort...
- JaimeThompson 5y ago
  Apple also perfectly demonstrated even more worrisome security issues https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30192743 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30192743
  - scarface74 5y ago
    Would you trust Apple to patch security fixes and distribute it as soon as they know or a random third party developer?
    - bluSCALE4 5y ago
      Neither. Lots of bounty hunters have come out threatening to go public if Apple doesn't patch fix / pay them.
      - scarface74 5y ago
        Why haven’t they then? Or at least sold them already to one of the Israeli firms?
        JaimeThompson 5y ago
        If the sold them to a private company we wouldn't know about it.
vorpalhex 5y ago
Epic had moderate success, as does f-droid.
sudosysgen 5y ago
F-Droid, Amazon, Samsung, and multiple Chinese companies are operating third-party stores with a fair amount of success.
- thaumasiotes 5y ago
  > multiple Chinese companies are operating third-party stores with a fair amount of success The Chinese companies are getting a substantial subsidy; the Google Play store is blocked in China.
- Apocryphon 5y ago
  F-Droid is great for hackers- a niche subset. Chinese app stores are a special case because of legal and political separation. How successful are Amazon or Samsung's app stores, and do they actually host any popular apps that users can't get on the Play Store?
  - TipiKoivisto 5y ago
    Excellent question. Would be great to see some real stats about download numbers and available apps (and not only from the two big ones: https://www.statista.com/statistics/276623/number-of-apps-available-in-leading-app-stores/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/276623/number-of-apps-av...).

scarface74 5y ago

Epic also perfectly demonstrated the security issues involved. https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/just-as-critics-feared-fortnite-for-android-came-with-an-epic-security-risk/ https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/just-as-critics-feared-fort...

JaimeThompson 5y ago
Apple also perfectly demonstrated even more worrisome security issues https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30192743 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30192743
- scarface74 5y ago
  Would you trust Apple to patch security fixes and distribute it as soon as they know or a random third party developer?
  - bluSCALE4 5y ago
    Neither. Lots of bounty hunters have come out threatening to go public if Apple doesn't patch fix / pay them.
    - scarface74 5y ago
      Why haven’t they then? Or at least sold them already to one of the Israeli firms?
      - JaimeThompson 5y ago
        If the sold them to a private company we wouldn't know about it.

vorpalhex 5y ago

Epic had moderate success, as does f-droid.

sudosysgen 5y ago

F-Droid, Amazon, Samsung, and multiple Chinese companies are operating third-party stores with a fair amount of success.

thaumasiotes 5y ago
> multiple Chinese companies are operating third-party stores with a fair amount of success The Chinese companies are getting a substantial subsidy; the Google Play store is blocked in China.
Apocryphon 5y ago
F-Droid is great for hackers- a niche subset. Chinese app stores are a special case because of legal and political separation. How successful are Amazon or Samsung's app stores, and do they actually host any popular apps that users can't get on the Play Store?
- TipiKoivisto 5y ago
  Excellent question. Would be great to see some real stats about download numbers and available apps (and not only from the two big ones: https://www.statista.com/statistics/276623/number-of-apps-available-in-leading-app-stores/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/276623/number-of-apps-av...).