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This is a peak HN reply right here.

by ubermonkey 5y ago

efficax 5y ago
but I'm right!
- NateEag 5y ago
  > I'd like to put my hand in the disposal and turn it on You are not right (see the detailed sibling comment to your claim to rightness), and either you didn't understand what the original poster actually wrote or you decided to reply to them but say something that's at best tangentially related to their comment and at worst is a pedantic assault on a strawman. Hence, peak HN. ... actually, "but I'm right!" with no evidence supplied for the assertion might be peak HN.
  - deleted 5y ago
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  - buescher 5y ago
    The good news is that most people have the good sense not to stick their hands in disposals when they're running.
  - IncRnd 5y ago
    Apple and Oranges... It is safe to put your hand in a garbage disposal when the power is off! This comment clearly is talking about the safety of your hand from the dangers of a powered-on garbage disposal. The other comment about dropping a garbage dispoal on your foot? no, that does not apply...
    - NateEag 5y ago
      The original comment says: > The overwhelming majority of these injuries involve fishing broken glass out by hand. That is injuring the hand by sticking it in a powered-off garbage disposal.
      - IncRnd 5y ago
        No. That was absolutely not the original comment... The comment which was being replied to talked about the garbage disposal eating the hand. It is possible in any situation to invent other branching scenarios based upon word play off the original intent. Just look at what started it: > I'd like to put my hand in the disposal and turn it on so I can catch the lemon seed that's stuck down there and pull it out. I wouldn't do that, there isn't enough space in there for your hand, a lemon seed is really small, and you will probably lose one or more of your fingers. That has nothing to do with glass being in the sink, dropping things on your foot, or any other made up scenario.
        NateEag 5y ago
        Sorry - by "original comment" I meant the sibling comment I was referencing. Wrong word choice on my part. The sibling comment refuted the idea that it's perfectly safe to stick your in a powered-off disposal, which was the made-up idea in response to the original post introducing the disposal metaphor.
buescher 5y ago
OK, I actually know about garbage disposals, because I looked up data on them to use them as an example of something you would not casually hook up to the internet. (The CPSC tabulates reportable injuries on all kinds of consumer products). About one person per month has a reportable injury due to an unfortunate encounter with a garbage disposal. Most years no one gets their fingers mangled. Also, they don't grind your hand to a bloody stump like you'd imagine from horror novels and movies. The overwhelming majority of these injuries involve fishing broken glass out by hand. A significant minority of them involve dropping the disposal on oneself while installing or removing one. So no, they're not "perfectly safe" with the power turned off.
- nexuist 5y ago
  By these standards a brick is not "perfectly safe" because someone might get hit by one if it gets thrown out of the Empire State Building.
  - buescher 5y ago
    The point is that most people overestimate the one danger and underestimate the others. So you have people having nightmares about a disposal consuming their arm - which literally never happens except in made-up stories - but not hesitating to reach into one to get a broken piece of a glass or jar, in no small part because they think "when the power is off it's perfectly safe to put your hand in the disposal". Not that you could drop it on your foot or something. Besides, the more typical injury is dropping it on your head while you're installing or removing it. See what I mean? You can figure out the analogy here for yourself.
    - anyfoo 5y ago
      Well but... I feel people get injured from glass in garbage disposals not because they feel specifically safe to stick their hand into one which is off, but because I have a feeling people generally underestimate how nasty broken glass can be. It really is surprisingly easy to get cut on glass if you haven't had to deal with it for a while, and even when trying to be extra careful you can often get cut at least a little (through gloves even). Doubly so if you are reaching for broken glass somewhere where you can't see, that's basically negligence, but still independent of what else that place could do. I just wonder if it would really be different if it was glass in just a pipe without a garbage disposal.

This is a peak HN reply right here.

efficax 5y ago

but I'm right!

NateEag 5y ago
> I'd like to put my hand in the disposal and turn it on You are not right (see the detailed sibling comment to your claim to rightness), and either you didn't understand what the original poster actually wrote or you decided to reply to them but say something that's at best tangentially related to their comment and at worst is a pedantic assault on a strawman. Hence, peak HN. ... actually, "but I'm right!" with no evidence supplied for the assertion might be peak HN.
- deleted 5y ago
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- buescher 5y ago
  The good news is that most people have the good sense not to stick their hands in disposals when they're running.
- IncRnd 5y ago
  Apple and Oranges... It is safe to put your hand in a garbage disposal when the power is off! This comment clearly is talking about the safety of your hand from the dangers of a powered-on garbage disposal. The other comment about dropping a garbage dispoal on your foot? no, that does not apply...
  - NateEag 5y ago
    The original comment says: > The overwhelming majority of these injuries involve fishing broken glass out by hand. That is injuring the hand by sticking it in a powered-off garbage disposal.
    - IncRnd 5y ago
      No. That was absolutely not the original comment... The comment which was being replied to talked about the garbage disposal eating the hand. It is possible in any situation to invent other branching scenarios based upon word play off the original intent. Just look at what started it: > I'd like to put my hand in the disposal and turn it on so I can catch the lemon seed that's stuck down there and pull it out. I wouldn't do that, there isn't enough space in there for your hand, a lemon seed is really small, and you will probably lose one or more of your fingers. That has nothing to do with glass being in the sink, dropping things on your foot, or any other made up scenario.
      - NateEag 5y ago
        Sorry - by "original comment" I meant the sibling comment I was referencing. Wrong word choice on my part. The sibling comment refuted the idea that it's perfectly safe to stick your in a powered-off disposal, which was the made-up idea in response to the original post introducing the disposal metaphor.

buescher 5y ago

OK, I actually know about garbage disposals, because I looked up data on them to use them as an example of something you would not casually hook up to the internet. (The CPSC tabulates reportable injuries on all kinds of consumer products). About one person per month has a reportable injury due to an unfortunate encounter with a garbage disposal. Most years no one gets their fingers mangled. Also, they don't grind your hand to a bloody stump like you'd imagine from horror novels and movies. The overwhelming majority of these injuries involve fishing broken glass out by hand. A significant minority of them involve dropping the disposal on oneself while installing or removing one. So no, they're not "perfectly safe" with the power turned off.

nexuist 5y ago
By these standards a brick is not "perfectly safe" because someone might get hit by one if it gets thrown out of the Empire State Building.
- buescher 5y ago
  The point is that most people overestimate the one danger and underestimate the others. So you have people having nightmares about a disposal consuming their arm - which literally never happens except in made-up stories - but not hesitating to reach into one to get a broken piece of a glass or jar, in no small part because they think "when the power is off it's perfectly safe to put your hand in the disposal". Not that you could drop it on your foot or something. Besides, the more typical injury is dropping it on your head while you're installing or removing it. See what I mean? You can figure out the analogy here for yourself.
  - anyfoo 5y ago
    Well but... I feel people get injured from glass in garbage disposals not because they feel specifically safe to stick their hand into one which is off, but because I have a feeling people generally underestimate how nasty broken glass can be. It really is surprisingly easy to get cut on glass if you haven't had to deal with it for a while, and even when trying to be extra careful you can often get cut at least a little (through gloves even). Doubly so if you are reaching for broken glass somewhere where you can't see, that's basically negligence, but still independent of what else that place could do. I just wonder if it would really be different if it was glass in just a pipe without a garbage disposal.