> Exactly. You see "both sides" using the exact same rhetoric How much of this is due not so much to some kind of fundamental similarity between their position

> Exactly. You see "both sides" using the exact same rhetoric How much of this is due not so much to some kind of fundamental similarity between their positions but rather to the virtually complete removal of rhetoric from the typical curriculum? Perhaps people argue like children because their thoughts are childlike, but perhaps they’re merely incompetent rhetoricians.