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Its only a matter of time before more nuanced posts with optimistic conclusions get traction on HN The people that are fine using and working with Web3 are her

Its only a matter of time before more nuanced posts with optimistic conclusions get traction on HN The people that are fine using and working with Web3 are here and numerous, just not paying attention well enough to bring traction to better posts

rchaud 5y ago
Moxie Marlinspike's article at the start of the year got plenty of traction, and it was far more nuanced than most, not least because the author actually went through the process of creating and NFT and dApp, evaluating the tools from a software engineer standpoint, and from the consumer standpoint. What in your opinion would count as an optimistic conclusion? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29845208 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29845208
- vmception 5y ago
  Optimism to me is noticing that you can contribute to fixing all the painpoints you encounter, and can optionally monetize all those fixes such that if you care about money the market is saying this is the only thing to focus on. The barrier to entry is in many ways lower than trying to do the same as a Web 2 style SaaS product, because the infrastructure demands are lower and the funnel is basically 1 step, as every interaction in this space already is a transaction. For example, the article spends a lot of time on OpenSea and how their wallet was using the OpenSea API, to bolster their "hey that doesn't match the ideal from proponents" crux of the article. What do you think the people that built OpenSea did when they decided to build OpenSea? So build another OpenSea, or submit a pull request to the wallet to render NFTs differently, use your own node, make a better node software, make an infura competitor which is a CDN of nodes, improve the build tools.... any part of the stack is up for grabs. Thats what permissionless is. Pretty easy to get traction for any variant you release because there is immediate utility from it from other people looking for painpoints improved upon. There are plenty of developer blog posts from people doing those specific things, they're just not posted on HN or moving up very high often. We could post conversations in github issues, or pull requests all day here. Easily shift the discussion. It's out of character that the HN audience as an aggregate only considers a few parts to make a conclusion on this specific topic.

rchaud 5y ago

Moxie Marlinspike's article at the start of the year got plenty of traction, and it was far more nuanced than most, not least because the author actually went through the process of creating and NFT and dApp, evaluating the tools from a software engineer standpoint, and from the consumer standpoint. What in your opinion would count as an optimistic conclusion? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29845208 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29845208

vmception 5y ago
Optimism to me is noticing that you can contribute to fixing all the painpoints you encounter, and can optionally monetize all those fixes such that if you care about money the market is saying this is the only thing to focus on. The barrier to entry is in many ways lower than trying to do the same as a Web 2 style SaaS product, because the infrastructure demands are lower and the funnel is basically 1 step, as every interaction in this space already is a transaction. For example, the article spends a lot of time on OpenSea and how their wallet was using the OpenSea API, to bolster their "hey that doesn't match the ideal from proponents" crux of the article. What do you think the people that built OpenSea did when they decided to build OpenSea? So build another OpenSea, or submit a pull request to the wallet to render NFTs differently, use your own node, make a better node software, make an infura competitor which is a CDN of nodes, improve the build tools.... any part of the stack is up for grabs. Thats what permissionless is. Pretty easy to get traction for any variant you release because there is immediate utility from it from other people looking for painpoints improved upon. There are plenty of developer blog posts from people doing those specific things, they're just not posted on HN or moving up very high often. We could post conversations in github issues, or pull requests all day here. Easily shift the discussion. It's out of character that the HN audience as an aggregate only considers a few parts to make a conclusion on this specific topic.