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This "everything is politics" line really needs to die. It's completely ignoring what people actually mean when they say "turned political" -- that people focu

This "everything is politics" line really needs to die. It's completely ignoring what people actually mean when they say "turned political" -- that people focus more on scoring points and amplifying divisions instead of the overall welfare of groups and individuals.

cloutchaser 5y ago
Maybe I should have said "tribal" instead of "turned political". Because that's what manipulative politicians do and it's what everyone hates and loves about politics.
- spookthesunset 5y ago
  I think you are right. It isn't politics, it is mostly tribalism. Us vs. "the others".
VikingCoder 5y ago
I don't think "everything is politics." I think the government needs a response to a global pandemic. Which is politics. And you said "they turned this into politics," and I think you meant to say, "they turned this partisan." Or "it became politically divisive." Yes, it's unfortunate that the two parties here in the U.S. did not agree about how to handle the global pandemic. People from both parties would tell you they were absolutely trying to care for the overall welfare of everyone. And they just disagreed about how to do it. I'm just personally horrified that we don't even agree about how to measure reality. Really fundamental questions like, "Is Covid more contagious and more deadly than the flu?" "Is the vaccine safe?" "Is your risk of myocarditis greater if you get the vaccine, or if you are infected with Covid?" "Does the vaccine put a chip in your body?" "Does the vaccine turn you magnetic?" "Did 5G cause Covid?" "Is this medication effective at preventing or treating Covid?" Like, the leaders of our political parties don't apparently agree about how to measure the answers to those questions. Or they're not effectively leading the people in their party to follow that decision. Basically, we're totally hosed.

cloutchaser 5y ago

Maybe I should have said "tribal" instead of "turned political". Because that's what manipulative politicians do and it's what everyone hates and loves about politics.

spookthesunset 5y ago
I think you are right. It isn't politics, it is mostly tribalism. Us vs. "the others".

VikingCoder 5y ago

I don't think "everything is politics." I think the government needs a response to a global pandemic. Which is politics. And you said "they turned this into politics," and I think you meant to say, "they turned this partisan." Or "it became politically divisive." Yes, it's unfortunate that the two parties here in the U.S. did not agree about how to handle the global pandemic. People from both parties would tell you they were absolutely trying to care for the overall welfare of everyone. And they just disagreed about how to do it. I'm just personally horrified that we don't even agree about how to measure reality. Really fundamental questions like, "Is Covid more contagious and more deadly than the flu?" "Is the vaccine safe?" "Is your risk of myocarditis greater if you get the vaccine, or if you are infected with Covid?" "Does the vaccine put a chip in your body?" "Does the vaccine turn you magnetic?" "Did 5G cause Covid?" "Is this medication effective at preventing or treating Covid?" Like, the leaders of our political parties don't apparently agree about how to measure the answers to those questions. Or they're not effectively leading the people in their party to follow that decision. Basically, we're totally hosed.