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Why the "only" wording? Seems like the covid vaccines don't even last this much, and they are praised.

darkcha0s 5y ago
I'm guessing because they give you protection without actually catching the potentially harmful virus in the first place?
- chucksta 5y ago
  No they used "only" as in "not very long". The question is asking how can you say it's not very long when the covid vaccination lasts less than a year in comparison
  - ben_w 5y ago
    6 months is pretty short in both cases, but I think darkcha0s has me right, the cost is much lower in the vaccination case. For a much most positive example of how that matters: “How long did he retire for?“ “Only six months“ vs. “How long did he go on holiday for?“ “Only six months“
SigmundA 5y ago
Covid vaccines have less side effects than the virus so are still superior option, hence the praise.
- robrorcroptrer 5y ago
  What if I had prior infection of Covid before vaccines were available? Why would I need to be forced to be vaccinated? Given that my health care system actually registers this prior infection. While we don't have vaccines for everyone in the world.
  - KptMarchewa 5y ago
    We have way more than enough for anyone who wants it.
  - boomboomsubban 5y ago
    Given that the poster said norovirus immunity lasts from 6-24 months, having been infected before the vaccine wouldn't guarantee you're safe. And while sure they could push back your vaccine requirement a few months, that'd require a fair amount of additional overhead and add an additional risk of having gotten a false diagnosis.
  - SigmundA 5y ago
    Getting Covid should be treated as though you got a vaccine based on the data I have seen, which also means its immunity effects wanes over time and would need to be boosted periodically either by reinfection or vaccine, again the vaccine being the safer approach. Whether or not you should be "forced" to take it should be based on risk to others in the situation that it is being forced, just like you are "forced" to not speed while driving on a public highway. I am not sure what the current latest scientific data is but my understanding is that virus and vaccine both reduce the risk of a subsequent infection, spreading the virus if infected and getting severe outcomes requires hospitalization (which reduces hospital capacity). Since this protective effect fades in both circumstances a recent booster would need to be "forced" if not recently having been infected assuming there is no issue with vaccine supply.
    - naasking 5y ago
      > Whether or not you should be "forced" to take it should be based on risk to others in the situation that it is being forced, just like you are "forced" to not speed while driving on a public highway. I really wish people would stop using this analogy. Driving is a privilege not a right, and you earn that privilege by following the rules. Living without compulsory medical procedures is a right, not a privilege, so it's the complete opposite case. You need a better analogy.
      - 5y ago

I'm guessing because they give you protection without actually catching the potentially harmful virus in the first place?

chucksta 5y ago
No they used "only" as in "not very long". The question is asking how can you say it's not very long when the covid vaccination lasts less than a year in comparison
- ben_w 5y ago
  6 months is pretty short in both cases, but I think darkcha0s has me right, the cost is much lower in the vaccination case. For a much most positive example of how that matters: “How long did he retire for?“ “Only six months“ vs. “How long did he go on holiday for?“ “Only six months“

SigmundA 5y ago

Covid vaccines have less side effects than the virus so are still superior option, hence the praise.

robrorcroptrer 5y ago
What if I had prior infection of Covid before vaccines were available? Why would I need to be forced to be vaccinated? Given that my health care system actually registers this prior infection. While we don't have vaccines for everyone in the world.
- KptMarchewa 5y ago
  We have way more than enough for anyone who wants it.
- boomboomsubban 5y ago
  Given that the poster said norovirus immunity lasts from 6-24 months, having been infected before the vaccine wouldn't guarantee you're safe. And while sure they could push back your vaccine requirement a few months, that'd require a fair amount of additional overhead and add an additional risk of having gotten a false diagnosis.
- SigmundA 5y ago
  Getting Covid should be treated as though you got a vaccine based on the data I have seen, which also means its immunity effects wanes over time and would need to be boosted periodically either by reinfection or vaccine, again the vaccine being the safer approach. Whether or not you should be "forced" to take it should be based on risk to others in the situation that it is being forced, just like you are "forced" to not speed while driving on a public highway. I am not sure what the current latest scientific data is but my understanding is that virus and vaccine both reduce the risk of a subsequent infection, spreading the virus if infected and getting severe outcomes requires hospitalization (which reduces hospital capacity). Since this protective effect fades in both circumstances a recent booster would need to be "forced" if not recently having been infected assuming there is no issue with vaccine supply.
  - naasking 5y ago
    > Whether or not you should be "forced" to take it should be based on risk to others in the situation that it is being forced, just like you are "forced" to not speed while driving on a public highway. I really wish people would stop using this analogy. Driving is a privilege not a right, and you earn that privilege by following the rules. Living without compulsory medical procedures is a right, not a privilege, so it's the complete opposite case. You need a better analogy.
    - 5y ago