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I don't use the official Apple Podcasts app anymore at all. My favorites now are Breez [1] for all Value4Value[2] podcasts, and Overcast[3] for all podcast tha

I don't use the official Apple Podcasts app anymore at all. My favorites now are Breez [1] for all Value4Value[2] podcasts, and Overcast[3] for all podcast that haven't upgraded yet. [1] https://breez.technology/technology.html https://breez.technology/technology.html [2] https://podcastindex.org/podcast/value4value https://podcastindex.org/podcast/value4value [3] https://overcast.fm/ https://overcast.fm/

LoveMortuus 5y ago
What is it that these apps offer that the default Google podcast doesn't? Does it give better discovery options? I'm asking because, I use Google podcast, but I use it to listen to podcasts that I already know exist, using the app itself to find interesting new podcasts hasn't been very successful for me.
- janandonly 5y ago
  Yes and yes. > What is it that these apps offer that the default Google podcast doesn't? For one, donating directly to the podcaster herself instead of to Spotify/Google/Anchor/Apple or whoever else runs the app. > Does it give better discovery options? Sort of, yes. Let me explain: All podcasting apps rely on the Apple podcast index. [1] One of the very early podcasters, Adam Curry, was worried about this index being run by Apple, who may or may not one day decide to censor the index or ask money for it. So he set up his own [2]. [1] http://adam.curry.com/html/PODFATHER-g6c2RMsVnxgTdZ2DgHlVfMvzg4jqS1.html http://adam.curry.com/html/PODFATHER-g6c2RMsVnxgTdZ2DgHlVfMv... [2] https://podcastindex.org/ https://podcastindex.org/
  - 7sidedmarble 5y ago
    I'm curious then, how does this work with platform exclusives? Are they entered into these databases?
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lelandfe 5y ago
Sorry, what does Bitcoin have to do with podcasting?
- janandonly 5y ago
  Bitcoin, or better, the lightning network on top of bitcoin, simply allows micropayments at a large scale for (almost) free. Breez is a podcast app that also happens to be a bitcoin lightning wallet, but there are others (like Fountain.FM [2]). The Value 4 Value initiative [1] incentives podcasters by paying an x amount for every second that you listed to a podcast. You can also donate an arbitrary extra amount if you wish. [1] https://podcastindex.org/podcast/value4value https://podcastindex.org/podcast/value4value [2] https://www.fountain.fm/ https://www.fountain.fm/
  - smoldesu 5y ago
    Good god, take me back to the RSS days and let this postmodern capitalist meme be finished already...
bin_bash 5y ago
I've never been that interested in Bitcoin (save for buying drugs a couple of times) but seeing products named things like "Value4Value" make me actively want to run away from anything that even smells of blockchain.
- janandonly 5y ago
  I suspect that more and more products will rely on the bitcoin network without using the word "bitcoin" in their marketing. Would you be interested in the Fountain.fm [1] podcast app? Are you still interested if someone told you it runs on a 2nd layer on top of bitcoin? [1] https://www.fountain.fm/ https://www.fountain.fm/
  - bin_bash 5y ago
    I use a credit card with patreon or memberful when I want to support creators. What would bitcoin offer me exactly? It seems it would pay creators that I don't actively want to support rather than just the ones I do.
    - janandonly 5y ago
      I don't think I understand you here, because your argument is in favor of what I just said above? Why would you pay a credit card fee and a Patreon fee if all you want to do is directly sponsor a Podcaster? You see, lightning transactions are more or less free (as in, sub $ cent transactions) [1]. And using the Fountain.FM or Breez podcasting app's allowes not just you to stream money to the podcaster herself, but also a % of that "donation" to be split or even wholly donated to yet another person. [2] [1] Scroll down to Median Fee: https://1ml.com/statistics https://1ml.com/statistics [2] For example, when you listen to this episode it will not stream money to the podcaster, but to the Human Rights Foundation: https://player.fm/series/closing-the-loop-2955490/ep-14-rodolfo-novak-a-decade-of-bitcoin-entrepreneurship https://player.fm/series/closing-the-loop-2955490/ep-14-rodo...
      - bin_bash 5y ago

LoveMortuus 5y ago

What is it that these apps offer that the default Google podcast doesn't? Does it give better discovery options? I'm asking because, I use Google podcast, but I use it to listen to podcasts that I already know exist, using the app itself to find interesting new podcasts hasn't been very successful for me.

janandonly 5y ago
Yes and yes. > What is it that these apps offer that the default Google podcast doesn't? For one, donating directly to the podcaster herself instead of to Spotify/Google/Anchor/Apple or whoever else runs the app. > Does it give better discovery options? Sort of, yes. Let me explain: All podcasting apps rely on the Apple podcast index. [1] One of the very early podcasters, Adam Curry, was worried about this index being run by Apple, who may or may not one day decide to censor the index or ask money for it. So he set up his own [2]. [1] http://adam.curry.com/html/PODFATHER-g6c2RMsVnxgTdZ2DgHlVfMvzg4jqS1.html http://adam.curry.com/html/PODFATHER-g6c2RMsVnxgTdZ2DgHlVfMv... [2] https://podcastindex.org/ https://podcastindex.org/
- 7sidedmarble 5y ago
  I'm curious then, how does this work with platform exclusives? Are they entered into these databases?

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lelandfe 5y ago

Sorry, what does Bitcoin have to do with podcasting?

janandonly 5y ago
Bitcoin, or better, the lightning network on top of bitcoin, simply allows micropayments at a large scale for (almost) free. Breez is a podcast app that also happens to be a bitcoin lightning wallet, but there are others (like Fountain.FM [2]). The Value 4 Value initiative [1] incentives podcasters by paying an x amount for every second that you listed to a podcast. You can also donate an arbitrary extra amount if you wish. [1] https://podcastindex.org/podcast/value4value https://podcastindex.org/podcast/value4value [2] https://www.fountain.fm/ https://www.fountain.fm/
- smoldesu 5y ago
  Good god, take me back to the RSS days and let this postmodern capitalist meme be finished already...

bin_bash 5y ago

I've never been that interested in Bitcoin (save for buying drugs a couple of times) but seeing products named things like "Value4Value" make me actively want to run away from anything that even smells of blockchain.

janandonly 5y ago
I suspect that more and more products will rely on the bitcoin network without using the word "bitcoin" in their marketing. Would you be interested in the Fountain.fm [1] podcast app? Are you still interested if someone told you it runs on a 2nd layer on top of bitcoin? [1] https://www.fountain.fm/ https://www.fountain.fm/
- bin_bash 5y ago
  I use a credit card with patreon or memberful when I want to support creators. What would bitcoin offer me exactly? It seems it would pay creators that I don't actively want to support rather than just the ones I do.
  - janandonly 5y ago
    I don't think I understand you here, because your argument is in favor of what I just said above? Why would you pay a credit card fee and a Patreon fee if all you want to do is directly sponsor a Podcaster? You see, lightning transactions are more or less free (as in, sub $ cent transactions) [1]. And using the Fountain.FM or Breez podcasting app's allowes not just you to stream money to the podcaster herself, but also a % of that "donation" to be split or even wholly donated to yet another person. [2] [1] Scroll down to Median Fee: https://1ml.com/statistics https://1ml.com/statistics [2] For example, when you listen to this episode it will not stream money to the podcaster, but to the Human Rights Foundation: https://player.fm/series/closing-the-loop-2955490/ep-14-rodolfo-novak-a-decade-of-bitcoin-entrepreneurship https://player.fm/series/closing-the-loop-2955490/ep-14-rodo...
    - bin_bash 5y ago