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As for the stock price, it will come back. FB users may be down but FB now owns Instagram and WhatsApp and they haven’t started to monetize them yet. Not to sa

As for the stock price, it will come back. FB users may be down but FB now owns Instagram and WhatsApp and they haven’t started to monetize them yet. Not to say they have genuinely been trying new technologies with AR/VR and with their stash of cash can buy any startups in AR/VR space. If anything FB is way underpriced IMO.

Eduard 5y ago
Instagram is old cohort. The fresh demographic is tiktok
hazelnut 5y ago
Sorry but Instagram is full of ads. So full that it bothers me and avoid looking at stories. WhatsApp is not monetized yet. Though, I believe it can be easily exchanged with a different service (e.g Signal, Telegram, …) if they start throwing ads at the users.
fourmii 5y ago
I don't know about WhatsApp, FB has been running ads on Insta for awhile now. How else are they going to monetize it?
_l4jh 5y ago
Instagram is monetised to fuck. It’s 50% ads these days. Almost useless and they keep “tweaking” the time line algorithm so nothing is in chronological order and you see the same things again and again. Often from days ago. WhatsApp is yet to be monetised but doing so is going to be tricky and messy. There are excellent alternatives with the same functionality for free such as Signal that while not a perfect drop in replacement are more than good enough. If they fuck up WhatsApp they could lose their users very quickly. That’s the trouble with so many messaging platforms. WhatsApp is nothing “special”. I would argue the only “special” service is iMessage due to the exclusivity of iOS although that seems to be more of a US thing than elsewhere. I think Facebook see they’re in a shit place with WhatsApp which is why they are yet to make any real changes despite owning them for years. It is the only acquisition they have made that they haven't made any substantial changes to as I honestly think they don't know how to do so and as it is all tied to a persons cell number anyway migration is pretty painless. People don't need to share a new username with anyone, just blast a message to all their friends with "Hey it's [redacted], I'm using $NewMessageApp now as WhatsApp got all weird with their changes". You get a few people to do that and people happily switch and the network effect takes over. Most people are using multiple messaging services anyway so it isn't even switching just dropping. Look at the hell they brought on with their last small change with the privacy policy. You had so much backlash to a small change that they pushed back the deadline and then dropped it altogether. Imagine actual real monetisation. It would be the end of the service in the blink of an eye.

Eduard 5y ago

Instagram is old cohort. The fresh demographic is tiktok

hazelnut 5y ago

Sorry but Instagram is full of ads. So full that it bothers me and avoid looking at stories. WhatsApp is not monetized yet. Though, I believe it can be easily exchanged with a different service (e.g Signal, Telegram, …) if they start throwing ads at the users.

fourmii 5y ago

I don't know about WhatsApp, FB has been running ads on Insta for awhile now. How else are they going to monetize it?

_l4jh 5y ago

Instagram is monetised to fuck. It’s 50% ads these days. Almost useless and they keep “tweaking” the time line algorithm so nothing is in chronological order and you see the same things again and again. Often from days ago. WhatsApp is yet to be monetised but doing so is going to be tricky and messy. There are excellent alternatives with the same functionality for free such as Signal that while not a perfect drop in replacement are more than good enough. If they fuck up WhatsApp they could lose their users very quickly. That’s the trouble with so many messaging platforms. WhatsApp is nothing “special”. I would argue the only “special” service is iMessage due to the exclusivity of iOS although that seems to be more of a US thing than elsewhere. I think Facebook see they’re in a shit place with WhatsApp which is why they are yet to make any real changes despite owning them for years. It is the only acquisition they have made that they haven't made any substantial changes to as I honestly think they don't know how to do so and as it is all tied to a persons cell number anyway migration is pretty painless. People don't need to share a new username with anyone, just blast a message to all their friends with "Hey it's [redacted], I'm using $NewMessageApp now as WhatsApp got all weird with their changes". You get a few people to do that and people happily switch and the network effect takes over. Most people are using multiple messaging services anyway so it isn't even switching just dropping. Look at the hell they brought on with their last small change with the privacy policy. You had so much backlash to a small change that they pushed back the deadline and then dropped it altogether. Imagine actual real monetisation. It would be the end of the service in the blink of an eye.