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I’m not sure whether everyone else is getting poorly paid at Amazon, or whether my clique is just doing well, but I’ve found that my salary is (was) in line wit

I’m not sure whether everyone else is getting poorly paid at Amazon, or whether my clique is just doing well, but I’ve found that my salary is (was) in line with the higher end of the market. The declining/flat stock price changes that though. I know quite a few Amazonians looking to leave once their two years are up* * Amazon pay a signing bonus for the first two years in lieu of RSUs. The idea is that you could sell your RSUs to make up the difference. The problem is that, for anyone who started in the last two years, your RSUs won’t make up the difference between your base salary and what you were getting as a bonus.

WaxProlix 5y ago
Market has gone up, too - if you're a recent hire, your comp targets are actually above those of your seniors. As an incoming L4 you can make up to 200k now, whereas 140 or 150 was considered 'good' 5 or 6 years ago. L6s who are pulling in mid 3s can leave and get 5-600k elsewhere very easily. It's not that the amazon money is bad per se, just that the industry and talent market are kind of crazy right now.
- freyr 5y ago
  L6 at Amazon is two levels up from the bottom (“senior engineer”)? Where are they making $500k-$600k a year? From levels.fyi, FAANG and the unicorns are almost all in the $300k-$400k range. Have offers gone up $200k in the last few months? Or are you assuming people are moving up a level?
  - WaxProlix 5y ago
    It's true actually, levels shows them topping out at ~400, but I personally know a few who are well above that.
  - comp_throw7 5y ago
    https://www.levels.fyi/company/Amazon/salaries/Software-Engineer/SDE-III/ https://www.levels.fyi/company/Amazon/salaries/Software-Engi... If you filter by "New Offers Only", you'll see a pretty sharp shift in the trend starting around October 2021. Same with Uber, a notable uptick starting late last year: https://www.levels.fyi/company/Uber/salaries/Software-Engineer/Senior-Software-Engineer/ https://www.levels.fyi/company/Uber/salaries/Software-Engine... The top of the band has probably gone up more than the median offer, and most companies didn't increase their bands by that much (yet). This is definitely a case of "the future is here - just not evenly distributed yet".
    - freyr 5y ago
      Still, extremely few in the claimed range, even after October.

WaxProlix 5y ago

Market has gone up, too - if you're a recent hire, your comp targets are actually above those of your seniors. As an incoming L4 you can make up to 200k now, whereas 140 or 150 was considered 'good' 5 or 6 years ago. L6s who are pulling in mid 3s can leave and get 5-600k elsewhere very easily. It's not that the amazon money is bad per se, just that the industry and talent market are kind of crazy right now.

freyr 5y ago
L6 at Amazon is two levels up from the bottom (“senior engineer”)? Where are they making $500k-$600k a year? From levels.fyi, FAANG and the unicorns are almost all in the $300k-$400k range. Have offers gone up $200k in the last few months? Or are you assuming people are moving up a level?
- WaxProlix 5y ago
  It's true actually, levels shows them topping out at ~400, but I personally know a few who are well above that.
- comp_throw7 5y ago
  https://www.levels.fyi/company/Amazon/salaries/Software-Engineer/SDE-III/ https://www.levels.fyi/company/Amazon/salaries/Software-Engi... If you filter by "New Offers Only", you'll see a pretty sharp shift in the trend starting around October 2021. Same with Uber, a notable uptick starting late last year: https://www.levels.fyi/company/Uber/salaries/Software-Engineer/Senior-Software-Engineer/ https://www.levels.fyi/company/Uber/salaries/Software-Engine... The top of the band has probably gone up more than the median offer, and most companies didn't increase their bands by that much (yet). This is definitely a case of "the future is here - just not evenly distributed yet".
  - freyr 5y ago
    Still, extremely few in the claimed range, even after October.