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>I prefer to use software where the designers and developers are bold and put forward their vision on what the right way is This is stupid, why do games let y

>I prefer to use software where the designers and developers are bold and put forward their vision on what the right way is This is stupid, why do games let you configure the controls? Is it because the developers are not bold to impose the right way and force the people into it? Are the people changing the controls "using it wrong"? I assume you mean themes, there is no right way there, there are people that need larger contrast, larger fonts, different colors so give them the option. So if you are forced by accessibility reasons to offer diffent sizes and colors(even iPhones offer this) then IMO you are a bad developer/designer to hardcode your theme and your are an ashole if you do extra work to prevent teeming by the community. If you mean missing functionality as a feature , most of the time is because other reasons, like GNOME missing file picker thumbnails and their fake defense of it like "you are using it wrong, just DND the files because this is the right way"

thawaya3113 5y ago
iPhones do not offer different colors. In fact, no proprietary OS offers different colors other than some accent colors. Which Gnome developers have already said they will bring in future releases. Heck, they aren’t even against theming. They are taking a wait and see approach to see if they can include more theme customizations without causing remarkably more work for app developers. In fact, they are absolutely fine with developers who want to provide additional themes doing so. To the point that Gnome developers have themselves added additional theming options to default apps that will be released in Gnome42.
- userbinator 5y ago
  In fact, no proprietary OS offers different colors other than some accent colors. Either you're very young, or have some agenda. Scroll down to the Windows section here and observe all the customisation we have lost over the years: https://guidebookgallery.org/screenshots/appearance https://guidebookgallery.org/screenshots/appearance In particular, look at this: https://guidebookgallery.org/pics/gui/settings/appearance/win101.png https://guidebookgallery.org/pics/gui/settings/appearance/wi... Windows 1.01 already let you change the colours of almost every UI element.
- simion314 5y ago
  >iPhones do not offer different colors. I don't mean you chose colors and corner radius because you want to make your buttons look like candy. I mean features like text sizes and high contrast , go check your iPhone Accessibility section (but only if too many settings won't affect negatively, there are probably many options and labels to read). My point is that hard-coding fonts,sizes and colors in your app is against accessibility, some fonts are harder to read then others for some people, small sizes is obvious the issue, some people need higher contrast then gray on white to read comfortably. If you are a competent dev or designer you need to understand that your app needs to work if the user wants a different font and different colors, Apple has guidelines. What would be nice is to think about the app as a tool that lets the user do a job and not like a work of art that a desgner needs to add it to a CV,
- kaetemi 5y ago
  I remember back with XP everyone was installing additional themes and gadgets to completely customise the look of their system. And it worked fine. Why can't it work now? A computer is part of the room. It's part of the furniture. It's part of the looks. I should be able to decorate the digital desktop, as much as I am able to decorate the surrounding desk and room.
  - CRConrad 5y ago
    > I remember back with XP everyone was installing additional themes and gadgets to completely customise the look of their system. That sounds a bit weird: Up to and including Windows 7, you could pretty completely customise the look of your system just using the built-in control panel.
    - kaetemi 5y ago
      Not just changing the colors. You had websites with entire themes.
- CRConrad 5y ago
  > In fact, no proprietary OS offers different colors other than some accent colors. Yeah, and that sucks. Why the fuck don't they? Until fairly recently, "the" proprietary OS -- Windows -- did offer different colours for everything, not just some accent colours. Taking that away (with the introduction of Windows 8) was a humongous dick move. What makes you think that (previously most, and now all) proprietary OS vendors perpetrating this humongous dick move is somehow an argument in its favour?

thawaya3113 5y ago

iPhones do not offer different colors. In fact, no proprietary OS offers different colors other than some accent colors. Which Gnome developers have already said they will bring in future releases. Heck, they aren’t even against theming. They are taking a wait and see approach to see if they can include more theme customizations without causing remarkably more work for app developers. In fact, they are absolutely fine with developers who want to provide additional themes doing so. To the point that Gnome developers have themselves added additional theming options to default apps that will be released in Gnome42.

userbinator 5y ago
In fact, no proprietary OS offers different colors other than some accent colors. Either you're very young, or have some agenda. Scroll down to the Windows section here and observe all the customisation we have lost over the years: https://guidebookgallery.org/screenshots/appearance https://guidebookgallery.org/screenshots/appearance In particular, look at this: https://guidebookgallery.org/pics/gui/settings/appearance/win101.png https://guidebookgallery.org/pics/gui/settings/appearance/wi... Windows 1.01 already let you change the colours of almost every UI element.
simion314 5y ago
>iPhones do not offer different colors. I don't mean you chose colors and corner radius because you want to make your buttons look like candy. I mean features like text sizes and high contrast , go check your iPhone Accessibility section (but only if too many settings won't affect negatively, there are probably many options and labels to read). My point is that hard-coding fonts,sizes and colors in your app is against accessibility, some fonts are harder to read then others for some people, small sizes is obvious the issue, some people need higher contrast then gray on white to read comfortably. If you are a competent dev or designer you need to understand that your app needs to work if the user wants a different font and different colors, Apple has guidelines. What would be nice is to think about the app as a tool that lets the user do a job and not like a work of art that a desgner needs to add it to a CV,
kaetemi 5y ago
I remember back with XP everyone was installing additional themes and gadgets to completely customise the look of their system. And it worked fine. Why can't it work now? A computer is part of the room. It's part of the furniture. It's part of the looks. I should be able to decorate the digital desktop, as much as I am able to decorate the surrounding desk and room.
- CRConrad 5y ago
  > I remember back with XP everyone was installing additional themes and gadgets to completely customise the look of their system. That sounds a bit weird: Up to and including Windows 7, you could pretty completely customise the look of your system just using the built-in control panel.
  - kaetemi 5y ago
    Not just changing the colors. You had websites with entire themes.
CRConrad 5y ago
> In fact, no proprietary OS offers different colors other than some accent colors. Yeah, and that sucks. Why the fuck don't they? Until fairly recently, "the" proprietary OS -- Windows -- did offer different colours for everything, not just some accent colours. Taking that away (with the introduction of Windows 8) was a humongous dick move. What makes you think that (previously most, and now all) proprietary OS vendors perpetrating this humongous dick move is somehow an argument in its favour?