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As a... developer I want... the development experience to be delightful So I can... be delighted

chihuahua 5y ago
If they aim for "delightful", but achieve "pretty good", that's still a success and worth the effort.
bryanrasmussen 5y ago
how do your jobs delight you? My experience - back from when jobs only wanted you to have fun but it seems to be the same thing - is they give you foosball and ping pong and maybe a gym membership - ok also some times free soft drinks and good cafeterias? So I guess I like some of that stuff now that I've listed it all but I was never really delighted, maybe just happy I could get a coke with my burger. I guess to delight me I need magic doorways and 1920s era Santa Claus (none of this post modern stuff where Santa is a trained killer who enslaves elves or stuff, I don't like it)
- brimble 5y ago
  The parent post was a parody of a user story in a very common format, possibly intended to highlight how little concrete information "delightful" conveys.
  - bryanrasmussen 5y ago
    didn't notice, but you're right on re-reading. I dislike the user story format though.
- nfw2 5y ago
  When something is terrible, then becomes not-so-terrible (like the JIRA issues page), it makes me happy. That's what they mean. Solving developer's problems so they can make them happier, or, for the jaded one, at least not as miserable
- nijave 5y ago
  Honestly just being able to get work done without blocker after blocker appearing is "delightful" Too many places have horizontal silos, elaborate bureaucratic policies, throw it over the wall mentality It's surprising some places pay engineers so much to fill out e-paperwork all day
  - dvtrn 5y ago
    Too many places have horizontal silos, elaborate bureaucratic policies, throw it over the wall mentality While looking you dead in the face and saying "we've broken down all of our silos". Current job is this way. "We are all DevOps" Yet only one person is allowed to deploy, build pipelines, and provision resources. No one's broken down any silos, they just changed the name on the land deed and kept the silos where they are.
    - throwaway6532 5y ago
      If anyone hadn't noticed even entire countries do this. I'm looking at you Democratic People's Republic of Korea!
throwaway6532 5y ago
As a developer I want the damn thing to work So I don't have to tear my hear out

If they aim for "delightful", but achieve "pretty good", that's still a success and worth the effort.

how do your jobs delight you? My experience - back from when jobs only wanted you to have fun but it seems to be the same thing - is they give you foosball and ping pong and maybe a gym membership - ok also some times free soft drinks and good cafeterias? So I guess I like some of that stuff now that I've listed it all but I was never really delighted, maybe just happy I could get a coke with my burger. I guess to delight me I need magic doorways and 1920s era Santa Claus (none of this post modern stuff where Santa is a trained killer who enslaves elves or stuff, I don't like it)

brimble 5y ago
The parent post was a parody of a user story in a very common format, possibly intended to highlight how little concrete information "delightful" conveys.
- bryanrasmussen 5y ago
  didn't notice, but you're right on re-reading. I dislike the user story format though.
nfw2 5y ago
When something is terrible, then becomes not-so-terrible (like the JIRA issues page), it makes me happy. That's what they mean. Solving developer's problems so they can make them happier, or, for the jaded one, at least not as miserable
nijave 5y ago
Honestly just being able to get work done without blocker after blocker appearing is "delightful" Too many places have horizontal silos, elaborate bureaucratic policies, throw it over the wall mentality It's surprising some places pay engineers so much to fill out e-paperwork all day
- dvtrn 5y ago
  Too many places have horizontal silos, elaborate bureaucratic policies, throw it over the wall mentality While looking you dead in the face and saying "we've broken down all of our silos". Current job is this way. "We are all DevOps" Yet only one person is allowed to deploy, build pipelines, and provision resources. No one's broken down any silos, they just changed the name on the land deed and kept the silos where they are.
  - throwaway6532 5y ago
    If anyone hadn't noticed even entire countries do this. I'm looking at you Democratic People's Republic of Korea!

throwaway6532 5y ago

As a developer I want the damn thing to work So I don't have to tear my hear out