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The author is projecting his assumptions based on 400 people questioned. Is it fair. Most Cars volvo produced is not as safe simply because Volvo is still maki

by maxdo 5y ago

The author is projecting his assumptions based on 400 people questioned. Is it fair. Most Cars volvo produced is not as safe simply because Volvo is still making most of the money on Gasoline car, and they are less safe vs electric. Do we need to create a screaming article "Vovlo is deliberately making money on old tech that kills people"? Again volvo is a premium brand, so they don't want to invest more in EV to make your car more safe. They also promote hybrid Cars that has highest chances to catch on fire compares to EV and regular ICE cars. But yeah, naming of an optional feature is so much more important compares to real tech, crash tests etc. That's a logic media is trying to put in our head. Don't think.

ummonk 5y ago
What makes you say gasoline cars are much less safe than electric?
- nikau 5y ago
  Hollywood movie explosions
oblio 5y ago
> Again volvo is a premium brand, so they don't want to invest more in EV to make your car more safe. Dude, really? https://group.volvocars.com/company/innovation/electrification https://group.volvocars.com/company/innovation/electrificati...
- maxdo 5y ago
  Volvo's plans all in the future, it's just a commitment. today is there in 2025, tomorrow web designer put another beautiful article with 2030. Gasoline cars is less safe to the same car with the same set of airbags just because of It's physics e.g. lower center of gravity, no engine in the front that can kill you during forward collision, battery at the bottom serve as a protection layer during other type of crashes. In fact tesla is about to release structural batteries cars, that will use battery as part of the cars body, makes it even more safe. Model Y with structural pack will be out in March 2022. Volvo at this moment promoting hybrids and ICE that doesn't have this features, because it's bloody business. And money is money. Just compare real actions of Volvo who claim one of the safest brand and Tesla.
  - oblio 5y ago
    Did you even read the article I linked? I have friends that have the XC40 Recharge... > In fact tesla is about to release structural batteries cars, that will use battery as part of the cars body, makes it even more safe. Model Y with structural pack will be out in March 2022. I'll believe that when I see it. How's the Tesla Semi release going? Especially since structural batteries are still an active research topic that actual researchers think will be in mass production in 5 years or more.
  - kaba0 5y ago
    > battery at the bottom serve as a protection layer during other type of crashes. And it can nicely burst into flames that burn for hours on, without any easy way to put it out. I sure as hell would rather have a broken arm over being burnt alive in a steel frame.
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dmitriid 5y ago
> Most Cars volvo produced is not as safe simply because Volvo is still making most of the money on Gasoline car That's... quite a leap. > Do we need to create a screaming article "Vovlo is deliberately making money on old tech that kills people"? That would be just that: a screaming article. > so they don't want to invest more in EV to make your car more safe. Ah, yes. Because the only way to make a car safe is to make it electric. 1. I was responding to the ridiculous claim of "if you care about safety it's hard to match with what Tesla offers". This claim is bullshit, and Volvo easily matches what Tesla offers when it comes to car safety 2. Volvo XC40 Recharge, C40 Recharge are the cars that exist, but you chose to ignore them > Naming of an optional feature is so much more important compares to real tech, crash tests etc. I tried to parse this sentense, and I couldn't. Are you saying that Volvo doesn't do real tech, or doesn't do crash tests etc.? If so, are you delusional? BTW, here's Volvo's purpose-built crash-test laboratory: https://www.media.volvocars.com/se/sv-se/media/videos/154740/volvo-cars-safety-centre-crash-tests https://www.media.volvocars.com/se/sv-se/media/videos/154740...

by maxdo 5y ago

ummonk 5y ago

What makes you say gasoline cars are much less safe than electric?

nikau 5y ago
Hollywood movie explosions

oblio 5y ago

> Again volvo is a premium brand, so they don't want to invest more in EV to make your car more safe. Dude, really? https://group.volvocars.com/company/innovation/electrification https://group.volvocars.com/company/innovation/electrificati...

maxdo 5y ago
Volvo's plans all in the future, it's just a commitment. today is there in 2025, tomorrow web designer put another beautiful article with 2030. Gasoline cars is less safe to the same car with the same set of airbags just because of It's physics e.g. lower center of gravity, no engine in the front that can kill you during forward collision, battery at the bottom serve as a protection layer during other type of crashes. In fact tesla is about to release structural batteries cars, that will use battery as part of the cars body, makes it even more safe. Model Y with structural pack will be out in March 2022. Volvo at this moment promoting hybrids and ICE that doesn't have this features, because it's bloody business. And money is money. Just compare real actions of Volvo who claim one of the safest brand and Tesla.
- oblio 5y ago
  Did you even read the article I linked? I have friends that have the XC40 Recharge... > In fact tesla is about to release structural batteries cars, that will use battery as part of the cars body, makes it even more safe. Model Y with structural pack will be out in March 2022. I'll believe that when I see it. How's the Tesla Semi release going? Especially since structural batteries are still an active research topic that actual researchers think will be in mass production in 5 years or more.
- kaba0 5y ago
  > battery at the bottom serve as a protection layer during other type of crashes. And it can nicely burst into flames that burn for hours on, without any easy way to put it out. I sure as hell would rather have a broken arm over being burnt alive in a steel frame.

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dmitriid 5y ago

> Most Cars volvo produced is not as safe simply because Volvo is still making most of the money on Gasoline car That's... quite a leap. > Do we need to create a screaming article "Vovlo is deliberately making money on old tech that kills people"? That would be just that: a screaming article. > so they don't want to invest more in EV to make your car more safe. Ah, yes. Because the only way to make a car safe is to make it electric. 1. I was responding to the ridiculous claim of "if you care about safety it's hard to match with what Tesla offers". This claim is bullshit, and Volvo easily matches what Tesla offers when it comes to car safety 2. Volvo XC40 Recharge, C40 Recharge are the cars that exist, but you chose to ignore them > Naming of an optional feature is so much more important compares to real tech, crash tests etc. I tried to parse this sentense, and I couldn't. Are you saying that Volvo doesn't do real tech, or doesn't do crash tests etc.? If so, are you delusional? BTW, here's Volvo's purpose-built crash-test laboratory: https://www.media.volvocars.com/se/sv-se/media/videos/154740/volvo-cars-safety-centre-crash-tests https://www.media.volvocars.com/se/sv-se/media/videos/154740...