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'There was no real lockdown in the USA ' Not really true. Hawaii closed parks, trails, and beaches. https://www.travelandleisure.com/travel-news/hawaii-corona

'There was no real lockdown in the USA ' Not really true. Hawaii closed parks, trails, and beaches. https://www.travelandleisure.com/travel-news/hawaii-coronavirus-cases-inter-island-travel-restrictions https://www.travelandleisure.com/travel-news/hawaii-coronavi... ' Honolulu, city parks were closed on Aug. 8 along with beaches and state parks and indoor attractions like bowling alleys and arcades. ' Colorado closed all ski areas. https://coloradosun.com/2020/03/14/jared-polis-executive-order-ski-resorts/ https://coloradosun.com/2020/03/14/jared-polis-executive-ord...

eli 5y ago
Closing parks and beaches is definitely something but is it fair to call that a "real lockdown"? Compared to places with curfews and travel restrictions?
- s1artibartfast 5y ago
  It's definitely something, I would call it a crappy ineffective and poorly advised lockdown
epgui 5y ago
The problem is that the effectiveness of lockdowns depends on the degree to which you are able to compartmentalize. If some regions have a lockdown and not others, but people are able to freely move from one region to another, then the least strict policy will be the one (roughly speaking) limiting disease transmission. The stringency index should be aggregated as the minimum of all areas that allow for freedom of movement.
- landemva 5y ago
  Is it possible to stop movement of wild animals which are infected and transmit it back to humans? Impossible goal posts to pursue.
  - epgui 5y ago
    No, and it's not even possible to completely stop human movement. At the end of the day you need trucks to get across, etc. But getting close to perfect isolation is feasible: this is where monitoring and testing becomes most important, as you have to react quickly to contain any outbreak leakage. Importantly, the key benefit of this approach is that it allows you to open up in a controlled fashion areas that are clear of any outbreaks. So while the measures are most extreme and most costly up front, they ultimately are economically advantageous because they are of shorter duration.

eli 5y ago

Closing parks and beaches is definitely something but is it fair to call that a "real lockdown"? Compared to places with curfews and travel restrictions?

s1artibartfast 5y ago
It's definitely something, I would call it a crappy ineffective and poorly advised lockdown

epgui 5y ago

The problem is that the effectiveness of lockdowns depends on the degree to which you are able to compartmentalize. If some regions have a lockdown and not others, but people are able to freely move from one region to another, then the least strict policy will be the one (roughly speaking) limiting disease transmission. The stringency index should be aggregated as the minimum of all areas that allow for freedom of movement.

landemva 5y ago
Is it possible to stop movement of wild animals which are infected and transmit it back to humans? Impossible goal posts to pursue.
- epgui 5y ago
  No, and it's not even possible to completely stop human movement. At the end of the day you need trucks to get across, etc. But getting close to perfect isolation is feasible: this is where monitoring and testing becomes most important, as you have to react quickly to contain any outbreak leakage. Importantly, the key benefit of this approach is that it allows you to open up in a controlled fashion areas that are clear of any outbreaks. So while the measures are most extreme and most costly up front, they ultimately are economically advantageous because they are of shorter duration.